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The "FTP" archive is also served over HTTPS nowadays, and has been for a long time. The hostname may still be ftp.funet.fi but there's an HTTP(S) server listeni

by Delk 3y ago

The "FTP" archive is also served over HTTPS nowadays, and has been for a long time. The hostname may still be ftp.funet.fi but there's an HTTP(S) server listening. I'm actually a bit surprised that they do also seem to still run an actual FTP server there as well.

II2II 3y ago
If you like working with old machines, you quickly learn to appreciate the availability of FTP servers. Encrypted connections are quite CPU intensive, particularly when negotiating the connection.
- yencabulator 3y ago
  You don't need FTP to avoid TLS: curl http://ftp.funet.fi/README http://ftp.funet.fi/README
  - geraldhh 3y ago
    a lot of old (read strange) machines don't have curl or wget available
- warrenm 3y ago
  If you're working with something old enough for encrypted connections to be "CPU intensive", you're probably not talking to anything remotely current any way TLS 1.3 is out there TLS 1.2 is ubiquitious I cannot recall the last time I saw anything older than TLS 1.1 anywhere - TLS 1.1 on down into the various SSL specs are all deprecated/unsupported[0] TLS 1.1 and 1.0 have been deprecated for 2 years, SSL3 since 2015, SSL2 since 2011 If you're running something new enough to support TLS 1.1 (at least, 1.2 or 1.3 are much better), then the encryption overhead is very tiny ------- [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_Layer_Security https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_Layer_Security
quadhome 3y ago
Over HTTPS or over TLS (neé SSL)?
- Delk 3y ago
  https://ftp.funet.fi/ https://ftp.funet.fi/ I don't know if their FTP server supports TLS. (edit: fixed url)
  - warrenm 3y ago
    it's running TLS 1.3, according to Firefox
hulitu 3y ago
> I'm actually a bit surprised that they do also seem to still run an actual FTP server there as well. FTP is more practical than a web browser. Midnight commander and Total commander have an integrated ftp browser.

by Delk 3y ago

II2II 3y ago

If you like working with old machines, you quickly learn to appreciate the availability of FTP servers. Encrypted connections are quite CPU intensive, particularly when negotiating the connection.

yencabulator 3y ago
You don't need FTP to avoid TLS: curl http://ftp.funet.fi/README http://ftp.funet.fi/README
- geraldhh 3y ago
  a lot of old (read strange) machines don't have curl or wget available
warrenm 3y ago
If you're working with something old enough for encrypted connections to be "CPU intensive", you're probably not talking to anything remotely current any way TLS 1.3 is out there TLS 1.2 is ubiquitious I cannot recall the last time I saw anything older than TLS 1.1 anywhere - TLS 1.1 on down into the various SSL specs are all deprecated/unsupported[0] TLS 1.1 and 1.0 have been deprecated for 2 years, SSL3 since 2015, SSL2 since 2011 If you're running something new enough to support TLS 1.1 (at least, 1.2 or 1.3 are much better), then the encryption overhead is very tiny ------- [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_Layer_Security https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_Layer_Security

quadhome 3y ago

Over HTTPS or over TLS (neé SSL)?

Delk 3y ago
https://ftp.funet.fi/ https://ftp.funet.fi/ I don't know if their FTP server supports TLS. (edit: fixed url)
- warrenm 3y ago
  it's running TLS 1.3, according to Firefox

hulitu 3y ago

> I'm actually a bit surprised that they do also seem to still run an actual FTP server there as well. FTP is more practical than a web browser. Midnight commander and Total commander have an integrated ftp browser.