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Sharing a piece of advice Bram gave to me once: "It appears you think that everybody is like you. But that's not so." I didn't take the advice well at the tim

Sharing a piece of advice Bram gave to me once: "It appears you think that everybody is like you. But that's not so." I didn't take the advice well at the time, but now, a little older and wiser, I understand. Thank you, Bram. Thank you for vim, for your time and dedication, and for taking the time to deposit a small amount of your wisdom into my brain. Sorry for being a dick.

Aachen 3y ago
It's a hard piece of advice to make use of. I couldn't say whether I assume everyone is like me or not: it really depends on what we're talking about. Are you okay with sharing what it was about concretely? That may be more of a takeaway, to learn in which way people aren't all alike, than the general statement that not everyone's the same
- soulofmischief 3y ago
  It was in response to some UX considerations for a feature I wanted to patch into vim. I must have had a bad week, I was needlessly combative after an initially abrasive response from another contributor who closed my issue without consideration. Bram stepped in and finally got the conversation moving. We couldn't come to an agreement on how to implement it in the most robust way... meanwhile over at neovim a PR was submitted and merged, and a backwards-compatible solution provided within 3 days of me filing an issue. :-)
tonywoode 3y ago
classic line. Do you think he'll be remembered for his struggles with the perils of open source feature requests, as well as for vim itself? Largley because of the keybindings, Vim was a perfect storm for this: maybe the epitaph is "he could never figure out how to quit vim either". +1 for the Moolenaar award to show appreciation for people whilst they're still alive and coping with the rest of us all being dicks....
- soulofmischief 3y ago
  If his epitaph isn't something along the lines of ":wq", I'd be very disappointed.

Aachen 3y ago

It's a hard piece of advice to make use of. I couldn't say whether I assume everyone is like me or not: it really depends on what we're talking about. Are you okay with sharing what it was about concretely? That may be more of a takeaway, to learn in which way people aren't all alike, than the general statement that not everyone's the same

soulofmischief 3y ago
It was in response to some UX considerations for a feature I wanted to patch into vim. I must have had a bad week, I was needlessly combative after an initially abrasive response from another contributor who closed my issue without consideration. Bram stepped in and finally got the conversation moving. We couldn't come to an agreement on how to implement it in the most robust way... meanwhile over at neovim a PR was submitted and merged, and a backwards-compatible solution provided within 3 days of me filing an issue. :-)

tonywoode 3y ago

classic line. Do you think he'll be remembered for his struggles with the perils of open source feature requests, as well as for vim itself? Largley because of the keybindings, Vim was a perfect storm for this: maybe the epitaph is "he could never figure out how to quit vim either". +1 for the Moolenaar award to show appreciation for people whilst they're still alive and coping with the rest of us all being dicks....

soulofmischief 3y ago
If his epitaph isn't something along the lines of ":wq", I'd be very disappointed.