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Yeah… I kinda need this job. They’ve told me it’s a hard requirement. Maybe some day I won’t be in such a desperate situation. Until then your suggestions sound

Yeah… I kinda need this job. They’ve told me it’s a hard requirement. Maybe some day I won’t be in such a desperate situation. Until then your suggestions sound untenable for my situation, but thanks. The apartment is not RFID/NFC. It’s HTTPS. Yes, that’s as insane as it sounds. Also, “you can just hack the HTTPS API to trigger via SMS over twilio” is not a convincing argument towards “people don’t need smartphones”. Arguments towards your thesis are kind of going off the rails there, if I’m being honest.

jrflowers 3y ago
This is a good point. Your apartment building requires a smart phone to get into and therefore everyone lives in apartment buildings that require smart phones to enter. It is silly to discuss living without a smart phone given the homogenous nature of our shared reality.
- runnerup 3y ago
  Per this logic, what topics ever can be discussed?
  - jrflowers 3y ago
    Troubleshooting Bluetooth.
sodality2 3y ago
I understand, but it frustrates me that your job gets to bully you into giving up your mobile devices for them to use. Depending on where you are, you may be able to make them provide a device or subsidize your bill/contract. For them to say it's a 'hard requirement' yet not provide for it.. it's like having employees pay for their safety equipment they need (which is illegal per OSHA). At the very least, if you're using your phone for work, look into tax deductions for your bills... https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/cochran-v-schwans-home-service-inc-29786/ https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/cochran-v-schwans-home-ser... Also re: the door situation, maybe carrying around a smartphone on airplane/powered down for this? Personally I also need a few apps, so I'd keep it around for that?
- runnerup 3y ago
  > it frustrates me that your job gets to bully you into giving up your mobile devices for them to use. Hard agree, but it seems that in most places it's perfectly legal. Similar to telling W-2 car mechanics or property maintenance technicians that they must bring their own tools.
  - sodality2 3y ago
    That's fair. Definitely write it off on your taxes, then. Could be upwards of $700/yr depending on your contract/device's worth, though it might be a partial deduction?
  - zhfliz 3y ago
    at least in Germany it's not legal to require use of personal devices such as phones for your job.

jrflowers 3y ago

This is a good point. Your apartment building requires a smart phone to get into and therefore everyone lives in apartment buildings that require smart phones to enter. It is silly to discuss living without a smart phone given the homogenous nature of our shared reality.

runnerup 3y ago
Per this logic, what topics ever can be discussed?
- jrflowers 3y ago
  Troubleshooting Bluetooth.

sodality2 3y ago

I understand, but it frustrates me that your job gets to bully you into giving up your mobile devices for them to use. Depending on where you are, you may be able to make them provide a device or subsidize your bill/contract. For them to say it's a 'hard requirement' yet not provide for it.. it's like having employees pay for their safety equipment they need (which is illegal per OSHA). At the very least, if you're using your phone for work, look into tax deductions for your bills... https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/cochran-v-schwans-home-service-inc-29786/ https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/cochran-v-schwans-home-ser... Also re: the door situation, maybe carrying around a smartphone on airplane/powered down for this? Personally I also need a few apps, so I'd keep it around for that?

runnerup 3y ago
> it frustrates me that your job gets to bully you into giving up your mobile devices for them to use. Hard agree, but it seems that in most places it's perfectly legal. Similar to telling W-2 car mechanics or property maintenance technicians that they must bring their own tools.
- sodality2 3y ago
  That's fair. Definitely write it off on your taxes, then. Could be upwards of $700/yr depending on your contract/device's worth, though it might be a partial deduction?
- zhfliz 3y ago
  at least in Germany it's not legal to require use of personal devices such as phones for your job.