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I feel like the steadfast RTO deniers are either 1) families or other people who have a large amount of responsibility outside of work, absolutely love hybrid

I feel like the steadfast RTO deniers are either 1) families or other people who have a large amount of responsibility outside of work, absolutely love hybrid 2) recluse engineers who love being alone and socialize on the internet, even 1 day in an office a week is unacceptable

baq 3y ago
'denier' implies that they're wrong whereas it's an objective fact: I have kids and a million responsibilities outside work and every 15 minutes saved by not commuting is 15 minutes that I don't have to do chores on the weekend or 15 minutes more with my kids or wife. Will not go back to office until they start pulling my teeth out.
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- repeekad 3y ago
  You misinterpret, what I was referring to those who are steadfast deniers, not that anyone who want WFH are “deniers”
jfengel 3y ago
Seems to me you're missing a bunch of others. 3) Those who live elsewhere 4) Those who want access to a non local talent pool 5) Those who are local but still don't want to add a commute to their work day 6) Those who don't want to pay for an office. (Including workers who would rather see it in their paychecks) We still haven't solved out the way to balance offices and remote workers, but I am grateful that we're at least being forced to ask the question. We are recycling formulas from factory work that need to be reconsidered.
- repeekad 3y ago
  Agreed, this was a dumb comment, I think what I was ultimately trying to say is there are also people who like working and want to enjoy the thing most of us spend most of our waking time doing, everyone’s situation is different and there’s no one size fits all anything
  - jfengel 3y ago
    I think a lot of people have depended on work for a large part of their social lives, and a lot of others feel conscripted into that. It's going to be a rough transition. Ultimately I think it's even broader, as we reconsider the 40 hour work week and even the need for universal work at all. And that will be even tougher.
LaGrange 3y ago
> and socialize on the internet, Actually I just have friends outside of work. The reason you never see that is that nobody invites you to things if they aren't paid for it.
- repeekad 3y ago
  You seem to be identifying with #2 while defending how you’re not #2?

baq 3y ago

'denier' implies that they're wrong whereas it's an objective fact: I have kids and a million responsibilities outside work and every 15 minutes saved by not commuting is 15 minutes that I don't have to do chores on the weekend or 15 minutes more with my kids or wife. Will not go back to office until they start pulling my teeth out.

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repeekad 3y ago
You misinterpret, what I was referring to those who are steadfast deniers, not that anyone who want WFH are “deniers”

jfengel 3y ago

Seems to me you're missing a bunch of others. 3) Those who live elsewhere 4) Those who want access to a non local talent pool 5) Those who are local but still don't want to add a commute to their work day 6) Those who don't want to pay for an office. (Including workers who would rather see it in their paychecks) We still haven't solved out the way to balance offices and remote workers, but I am grateful that we're at least being forced to ask the question. We are recycling formulas from factory work that need to be reconsidered.

repeekad 3y ago
Agreed, this was a dumb comment, I think what I was ultimately trying to say is there are also people who like working and want to enjoy the thing most of us spend most of our waking time doing, everyone’s situation is different and there’s no one size fits all anything
- jfengel 3y ago
  I think a lot of people have depended on work for a large part of their social lives, and a lot of others feel conscripted into that. It's going to be a rough transition. Ultimately I think it's even broader, as we reconsider the 40 hour work week and even the need for universal work at all. And that will be even tougher.

LaGrange 3y ago

> and socialize on the internet, Actually I just have friends outside of work. The reason you never see that is that nobody invites you to things if they aren't paid for it.

repeekad 3y ago
You seem to be identifying with #2 while defending how you’re not #2?