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It is absolutely considered racist to advocate for focusing on class instead of race. Try saying that in any group of millennial liberals and you will get an ea

It is absolutely considered racist to advocate for focusing on class instead of race. Try saying that in any group of millennial liberals and you will get an earful. It's very disappointing and politically unsavvy.

shaunxcode 3y ago
Because it is reductive and unhelpful. What is happening now is called triage. Of course helping all of the wounded is the goal but you tend to those bleeding out before those suffering from slivers. To stand up in the ER and exclaim “but we are all suffering! We should all be helped at the same time!” is simply counter productive at best. It is absolutely important to spend time imagining solutions that could help change the system itself to prevent future suffering but to offer them to people directly engaged in immediate disaster response is not productive. To put this in nerd terms don’t be the guy who suggests switching to Haskell/pure FP as a solution to the problem you are debugging in a production legacy OO system that needs to be fixed immediately. Like logically and long term you are probably right but what was the point beside making you feel smug? Also: intersectionality.
- gedy 3y ago
  > helping all of the wounded is the goal but you tend to those bleeding out before those suffering from slivers. I think this shows your biases. As an example, at my previous company, I was the only one who had grown up on welfare, was a high school dropout, lived near a superfund site, etc. However, I’m an older, straight, white male, and the millennials I worked with were all from much more privileged economic backgrounds. But somehow it was okay by the company for them to make public statements such as “we need to quit hiring so many straight, white males", but bringing up class was inappropriate?
- s1artibartfast 3y ago
  Triage doesn't operate on race or category. It looks at the individuals and their individual needs. You wouldn't operate a hospital triage assuming that someone should go to the front of the line just because they're black, and you shouldn't operate a social triage that way either. Some people have a scratch, and some people are bleeding out
potsandpans 3y ago
the only real threat to the status quo is solidarity, and that's why it's not popular. real change can't be popular in the mainstream
water9 3y ago
Who the hell cares what the kids who can’t even balance their checkbook care about? That’s our problem guys. When do we stop letting the kids drive the car?

shaunxcode 3y ago

Because it is reductive and unhelpful. What is happening now is called triage. Of course helping all of the wounded is the goal but you tend to those bleeding out before those suffering from slivers. To stand up in the ER and exclaim “but we are all suffering! We should all be helped at the same time!” is simply counter productive at best. It is absolutely important to spend time imagining solutions that could help change the system itself to prevent future suffering but to offer them to people directly engaged in immediate disaster response is not productive. To put this in nerd terms don’t be the guy who suggests switching to Haskell/pure FP as a solution to the problem you are debugging in a production legacy OO system that needs to be fixed immediately. Like logically and long term you are probably right but what was the point beside making you feel smug? Also: intersectionality.

gedy 3y ago
> helping all of the wounded is the goal but you tend to those bleeding out before those suffering from slivers. I think this shows your biases. As an example, at my previous company, I was the only one who had grown up on welfare, was a high school dropout, lived near a superfund site, etc. However, I’m an older, straight, white male, and the millennials I worked with were all from much more privileged economic backgrounds. But somehow it was okay by the company for them to make public statements such as “we need to quit hiring so many straight, white males", but bringing up class was inappropriate?
s1artibartfast 3y ago
Triage doesn't operate on race or category. It looks at the individuals and their individual needs. You wouldn't operate a hospital triage assuming that someone should go to the front of the line just because they're black, and you shouldn't operate a social triage that way either. Some people have a scratch, and some people are bleeding out

potsandpans 3y ago

the only real threat to the status quo is solidarity, and that's why it's not popular. real change can't be popular in the mainstream

water9 3y ago

Who the hell cares what the kids who can’t even balance their checkbook care about? That’s our problem guys. When do we stop letting the kids drive the car?