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I hate to break it to you, but a sever in Google’s data center is not a private place. And if you shower in a public shower? For instance at the gym or pool? I

by rcme 3y ago

I hate to break it to you, but a sever in Google’s data center is not a private place. And if you shower in a public shower? For instance at the gym or pool? I believe you’re beginning to see that you have certain expectations of privacy in public too.

yosito 3y ago
There's a reason I don't use Google products and block Google IP addresses. And I still expect that videos of me showering and the gym would not be posted online. It's not about who owns the property, it's about whether I'm in a place where I can be seen by the public.
- rcme 3y ago
  Anyone is free to sign up to the gym and go to the showers. And it’s not about Google specifically. Any server is located out in what is essentially public. When you connect over the internet, you’re essentially leaving your house to go to that server. Let’s say you used radio waves to operate a robot on a public street. Would it be invasive for those nearby to look at the robot? According to you, yes it would be because you’re controlling the robot from the privacy of your home. Or if you control the robot into someone’s yard. Wouldn’t they have a right to look at it? I’m not sure how you physically sitting at home changes things.
  - yosito 3y ago
    Your arguments aren't really rational.
    - rcme 3y ago
      Ok... I'm just taking your arguments (that you have no expectation of privacy in public) and showing you all the ways that you, personally, have an expectation of privacy in public. You have an expectation in a public shower. You have an expectation of privacy when your bits are in public. Why not in other situations?
      - yosito 3y ago
        You're switching the definition of public from publicly observable to publicly owned. Those are not the same thing.
        rcme 3y ago
        It’s actually you who are making the distinction. The article doesn’t mention whether or not the filmed people were “in public” or whether they were only “publicly observable” (whatever that means). One of the videos I know for a fact occurred in a shopping mall, which is private property that is open to the public. I assume this means “publicly observable” in your definition. But in either case, in regards to your original comment, how did you determine these people were "in public" instead of "publicly observable"?
- ipaddr 3y ago
  It is illegal to record anyone without their consent in places where there is an expectation of privacy. A shower may fall under that provided you have not been given notice that recording will take place. But people can takes photos of you at the gym working out and post thek online for others to laugh at. If your apartment manager tells you they are filming or a sign is visible at the gym they can film you. Connecting to the internet and requesting a resource means you are in public.

by rcme 3y ago

yosito 3y ago

There's a reason I don't use Google products and block Google IP addresses. And I still expect that videos of me showering and the gym would not be posted online. It's not about who owns the property, it's about whether I'm in a place where I can be seen by the public.

rcme 3y ago
Anyone is free to sign up to the gym and go to the showers. And it’s not about Google specifically. Any server is located out in what is essentially public. When you connect over the internet, you’re essentially leaving your house to go to that server. Let’s say you used radio waves to operate a robot on a public street. Would it be invasive for those nearby to look at the robot? According to you, yes it would be because you’re controlling the robot from the privacy of your home. Or if you control the robot into someone’s yard. Wouldn’t they have a right to look at it? I’m not sure how you physically sitting at home changes things.
- yosito 3y ago
  Your arguments aren't really rational.
  - rcme 3y ago
    Ok... I'm just taking your arguments (that you have no expectation of privacy in public) and showing you all the ways that you, personally, have an expectation of privacy in public. You have an expectation in a public shower. You have an expectation of privacy when your bits are in public. Why not in other situations?
    - yosito 3y ago
      You're switching the definition of public from publicly observable to publicly owned. Those are not the same thing.
      - rcme 3y ago
        It’s actually you who are making the distinction. The article doesn’t mention whether or not the filmed people were “in public” or whether they were only “publicly observable” (whatever that means). One of the videos I know for a fact occurred in a shopping mall, which is private property that is open to the public. I assume this means “publicly observable” in your definition. But in either case, in regards to your original comment, how did you determine these people were "in public" instead of "publicly observable"?
ipaddr 3y ago
It is illegal to record anyone without their consent in places where there is an expectation of privacy. A shower may fall under that provided you have not been given notice that recording will take place. But people can takes photos of you at the gym working out and post thek online for others to laugh at. If your apartment manager tells you they are filming or a sign is visible at the gym they can film you. Connecting to the internet and requesting a resource means you are in public.