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I think you’re confusing legal duty with moral duty. I have no reasonable expectation conversational counterparts aren’t lying through their teeth, but I have t
by rcme 3y ago
I think you’re confusing legal duty with moral duty. I have no reasonable expectation conversational counterparts aren’t lying through their teeth, but I have the moral expectation that they’re telling the truth. Similarly, you have no expectation of privacy when browsing the internet, but I think you would still feel an invasion of your privacy should I post your browsing history, along with your real name, publicly.
Ultimately, moral codes are about creating a functioning society. Having people feel comfortable in public is an important aspect of that.
- yosito 3y ago> you have no expectation of privacy when browsing the internet Uh, yes I do. And a very reasonable one!
- rcme 3y agoWhy? When you’re browsing the internet, you’re connecting to servers owned by others and agreeing to their terms of service. You’re also using a service provider to provide your internet service, which is, again, privately owned. From where to you derive your expectation of privacy?
- yosito 3y agoAnd when I'm showering in my apartment, I'm on privately owned property agreeing to my rental contract. That doesn't give my landlord a moral right to place a camera in the shower and post the photos online. Privacy in private is a right.
- rcme 3y agoI hate to break it to you, but a sever in Google’s data center is not a private place. And if you shower in a public shower? For instance at the gym or pool? I believe you’re beginning to see that you have certain expectations of privacy in public too.
- yosito 3y agoThere's a reason I don't use Google products and block Google IP addresses. And I still expect that videos of me showering and the gym would not be posted online. It's not about who owns the property, it's about whether I'm in a place where I can be seen by the public.
- rcme 3y agoAnyone is free to sign up to the gym and go to the showers. And it’s not about Google specifically. Any server is located out in what is essentially public. When you connect over the internet, you’re essentially leaving your house to go to that server. Let’s say you used radio waves to operate a robot on a public street. Would it be invasive for those nearby to look at the robot? According to you, yes it would be because you’re controlling the robot from the privacy of your home. Or if you control the robot into someone’s yard. Wouldn’t they have a right to look at it? I’m not sure how you physically sitting at home changes things.
- yosito 3y agoYour arguments aren't really rational.
- rcme 3y agoOk... I'm just taking your arguments (that you have no expectation of privacy in public) and showing you all the ways that you, personally, have an expectation of privacy in public. You have an expectation in a public shower. You have an expectation of privacy when your bits are in public. Why not in other situations?
- yosito 3y agoYou're switching the definition of public from publicly observable to publicly owned. Those are not the same thing.