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High-risk patients with heart failure and cardiac arrest hospitalized in teaching hospitals had lower 30-day mortality when admitted during dates of national ca

High-risk patients with heart failure and cardiac arrest hospitalized in teaching hospitals had lower 30-day mortality when admitted during dates of national cardiology meetings. A rare case of meetings proving beneficial? But why?

malaya_zemlya 3y ago
My guess, they delay risky procedures until senior doctors get back from the conference
- MattRix 3y ago
  This is not it, they were measuring 30-day mortality, not just mortality during the exact days of the conference.
  - JamisonM 3y ago
    Even with 30-day mortality this can be the case, heart patients I am sure do survive risky procedures and die two weeks later because of complications due to the procedure fairly regularly. (Not that I have an opinion on the root cause here.)
Knee_Pain 3y ago
Who knows. Maybe all the old doctors are gone for the meetings and only the young ones with more up to date knowledge are left to treat patients? To even suggest a causal link we would need soooo much data that nobody has right now
- Detrytus 3y ago
  I would say that doctors who attend conferences have more up to date knowledge than those who don't, regardless of age.
dmitrij 3y ago
Sometimes when the boss is away the team works better. At least, that is the case with my team. I don't really know why. Because I really think I am not a bad boss. But apparently either I am or they just don't need one and I am in the end a distraction.
- rafapras 3y ago
  Maybe coordination costs are lower when the boss is away? So more time is spent focusing on the task in the short term. And consequences would show up latter? When my boss went on maternity leave , the first 2 months were a breeze then things started getting harder.
  - wddkcs 3y ago
    This would seem to apply to health outcomes being cited in the thread as well. Yes, if we shut down all hospitals tomorrow, less people would die in the short term. Presumably that affect diminishes and reverses relatively soon.
analog31 3y ago
It would be worth looking into the seniority of the doctors attending the meetings. This is purely anecdotal, but my town hosts some meetings and conventions, including doctors, and I've been hired by those events as a musician. I'm always struck by how young the attendees are. They look like kids. It may be that meetings are more of an attraction for people trying to build their careers, make connections, and have a free vacation, whereas the senior doctors are happy to stay at home and man the fort, plus they have the usual obligations of older workers, such as families. This is also the case at my techie day job: Most of the interest in attending meetings is among the junior engineers.

malaya_zemlya 3y ago

My guess, they delay risky procedures until senior doctors get back from the conference

MattRix 3y ago
This is not it, they were measuring 30-day mortality, not just mortality during the exact days of the conference.
- JamisonM 3y ago
  Even with 30-day mortality this can be the case, heart patients I am sure do survive risky procedures and die two weeks later because of complications due to the procedure fairly regularly. (Not that I have an opinion on the root cause here.)

Knee_Pain 3y ago

Who knows. Maybe all the old doctors are gone for the meetings and only the young ones with more up to date knowledge are left to treat patients? To even suggest a causal link we would need soooo much data that nobody has right now

Detrytus 3y ago
I would say that doctors who attend conferences have more up to date knowledge than those who don't, regardless of age.

dmitrij 3y ago

Sometimes when the boss is away the team works better. At least, that is the case with my team. I don't really know why. Because I really think I am not a bad boss. But apparently either I am or they just don't need one and I am in the end a distraction.

rafapras 3y ago
Maybe coordination costs are lower when the boss is away? So more time is spent focusing on the task in the short term. And consequences would show up latter? When my boss went on maternity leave , the first 2 months were a breeze then things started getting harder.
- wddkcs 3y ago
  This would seem to apply to health outcomes being cited in the thread as well. Yes, if we shut down all hospitals tomorrow, less people would die in the short term. Presumably that affect diminishes and reverses relatively soon.

analog31 3y ago

It would be worth looking into the seniority of the doctors attending the meetings. This is purely anecdotal, but my town hosts some meetings and conventions, including doctors, and I've been hired by those events as a musician. I'm always struck by how young the attendees are. They look like kids. It may be that meetings are more of an attraction for people trying to build their careers, make connections, and have a free vacation, whereas the senior doctors are happy to stay at home and man the fort, plus they have the usual obligations of older workers, such as families. This is also the case at my techie day job: Most of the interest in attending meetings is among the junior engineers.