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Vegan diets cause far less climate pollution, study shows
- jonnycomputer 3y agoWhat about just boring old vegetarian diets. (: Here's a joke. How do you know if someone is a vegan? They'll tell you.
- j13n 3y agoIt's a step in the right direction, but the dairy industry takes a huge toll on the environment all on its own.
- beanjuiceII 3y agook we believe you
- jonnycomputer 3y agoI know it does (having grown up around the industry), but I don't think we need to go to such extremes. Lots of things have environmental tolls that don't receive anything like a tenth of this sort of absolutism.
- 000ooo000 3y agoI've heard that "joke" more times than I've ever heard vegans announce they're vegan.
- karmakurtisaani 3y agoHow do you know someone is insecure about their diet? They'll tell you a joke about vegans.
- npstr 3y agoBeing dead causes even less climate pollution. But that's not the point of living.
- timeon 3y agoHow is this relevant?
- Amorymeltzer 3y agoActual paper, open-access: https://www.nature.com/articles/s43016-023-00795-w https://www.nature.com/articles/s43016-023-00795-w. Figures 2 and 3 are what you're after
- KronisLV 3y agoHere's links to the figures that also should work: https://www.nature.com/articles/s43016-023-00795-w/figures/2 https://www.nature.com/articles/s43016-023-00795-w/figures/2 https://www.nature.com/articles/s43016-023-00795-w/figures/3 https://www.nature.com/articles/s43016-023-00795-w/figures/3 Seems like a pretty stark difference, but even if someone doesn't want to be a vegan or vegetarian, then simply consuming less meat seems like a pretty sane course of action. Reminds me of the very simple advice (apparently by Michael Pollan): Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants. That's more or less what I'm doing, getting a varied diet with lots of nutrients, but also exploring all sorts of plant options and dishes.
- PrimeMcFly 3y agoIt's not a sufficient reason to go vegan. There is no impact an individual can have that would make a different - we need to legislate and mandate that industries change their behavior to reduce climate change. Not to mention vegan ideology is generally flawed in my experience. They tend to use a strange in-group definition of sentient that implicitly grants personhood to anything with any kind of sense organ.
- invalidname 3y agoSo you don't vote either? I'd argue reducing meat intake is like voting. It's impact on the environment individually is tiny. But it also impacts the market and other eaters (voters).
- PrimeMcFly 3y ago> So you don't vote either? Actually, no. I'm in NYC so there's no point unless NY even begins to approach becoming purple, at least as long as the EC remains in place. > It's impact on the environment individually is tiny. But it also impacts the market and other eaters (voters). People are not going to go vegan though. Even if they were to consider it, it still wouldn't overall make a big difference unless industries changed.
- invalidname 3y agoThe EC is a stupid thing indeed, but since the ticket also includes local elections it probably should matter (e.g. I don't know if he's in your district but didn't George Santos come from NY?). But assuming normal elections, would you vote? I'm not vegan. But my spouse is. As a result, I effectively hardly eat any meat at all. This impacted friends and family and created a cascading effect. It also impacted other people as she's relatively well known in our community and quite a few people changed their eating habits as a result. Maybe it's from where I stand, but I see a lot more vegan eateries around these parts (not an American) and a lot more enthusiasm about it. I think this will cross a chasm at some point and even a little bit helps in that regard.
- beanjuiceII 3y agospam
- timeon 3y agoWhy?
- karmakurtisaani 3y agoThe previous discussion was flagged and dead. It's a paper in Nature, one of the most prestigious scientific journals, how does one justify flagging it?
- amriksohata 3y agoWorth watching gamechangers