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> I tell all my Apple friends to name something their $1000 iPhone does that my $200 Motorola can't. I’m not an “Apple friend” but I use Apple phones. My 4 yea

> I tell all my Apple friends to name something their $1000 iPhone does that my $200 Motorola can't. I’m not an “Apple friend” but I use Apple phones. My 4 year old $400 iPhone SE still gets updates and runs every app that since the day I bought it. Does your Motorola do that? My phone also doesn’t send forced telemetry to Google for use in selling ads to me. That’s kind of a big deal, I think. I don’t think I’ve talked to anyone to argue over whose phone is better for years. And I don’t think a company is “better” than another. But there are certainly some things that Apple phones do that Android phones don’t.

jqpabc123 3y ago
Does your Motorola do that? Yes, it does. Because I did something with my Motorola that you can't do with Apple --- I replaced the ROM. My phone also doesn’t send forced telemetry to Google No, your phone sends forced telemetry to Apple --- most likely so they can sell it to Google. https://www.tomsguide.com/news/android-ios-data-collection https://www.tomsguide.com/news/android-ios-data-collection
- catchnear4321 3y ago
  sounds like you’re talking more about your ability to create what you want and less about why you prefer a given phone maker over another. it’s apple telling you no, isn’t it? the thing that motivates you to start these internet conversations.
- skyyler 3y ago
  Depending on community support isn’t the same as getting security updates from the vendor…
  - jqpabc123 3y ago
    No, in some cases it's actually better. https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2021/10/13/apple-iphone-ipad-zero-day-security-warning-new-iphone-danger/?sh=d50756121c5d https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2021/10/13/apple-ip...
- prepend 3y ago
  > Because I did something with my Motorola that you can't do with Apple I jailbreak Apple devices too. But there’s no way I’m recommending that to a friend as it’s not a sustainable consumer strategy. Google and Motorola don’t support their devices as well as Apple. It’s great that you have a community solution, but unless I want to play tech support to people, I’m not suggesting devices that require community support just for basic security patches. Or for editing out privacy invading default functions.
  - jqpabc123 3y ago
    Or for editing out privacy invading default functions. So, it's much better to leave those in place so Apple can earn some extra cash? https://www.tomsguide.com/news/android-ios-data-collection https://www.tomsguide.com/news/android-ios-data-collection However, the researchers' iPhone transmitted more kinds of data, including device location, the device's local Internet Protocol (IP) address and the Wi-Fi network identifiers — the MAC addresses — of other devices on the local network, including home Wi-Fi routers.

jqpabc123 3y ago

Does your Motorola do that? Yes, it does. Because I did something with my Motorola that you can't do with Apple --- I replaced the ROM. My phone also doesn’t send forced telemetry to Google No, your phone sends forced telemetry to Apple --- most likely so they can sell it to Google. https://www.tomsguide.com/news/android-ios-data-collection https://www.tomsguide.com/news/android-ios-data-collection

catchnear4321 3y ago
sounds like you’re talking more about your ability to create what you want and less about why you prefer a given phone maker over another. it’s apple telling you no, isn’t it? the thing that motivates you to start these internet conversations.
skyyler 3y ago
Depending on community support isn’t the same as getting security updates from the vendor…
- jqpabc123 3y ago
  No, in some cases it's actually better. https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2021/10/13/apple-iphone-ipad-zero-day-security-warning-new-iphone-danger/?sh=d50756121c5d https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2021/10/13/apple-ip...
prepend 3y ago
> Because I did something with my Motorola that you can't do with Apple I jailbreak Apple devices too. But there’s no way I’m recommending that to a friend as it’s not a sustainable consumer strategy. Google and Motorola don’t support their devices as well as Apple. It’s great that you have a community solution, but unless I want to play tech support to people, I’m not suggesting devices that require community support just for basic security patches. Or for editing out privacy invading default functions.
- jqpabc123 3y ago
  Or for editing out privacy invading default functions. So, it's much better to leave those in place so Apple can earn some extra cash? https://www.tomsguide.com/news/android-ios-data-collection https://www.tomsguide.com/news/android-ios-data-collection However, the researchers' iPhone transmitted more kinds of data, including device location, the device's local Internet Protocol (IP) address and the Wi-Fi network identifiers — the MAC addresses — of other devices on the local network, including home Wi-Fi routers.