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Interestingly, at least British and Australian people tend to make the 'R' sound when the word ends in a vowel sound (e.g. "dater" instead of "data").
by jbjohns 3y ago
Interestingly, at least British and Australian people tend to make the 'R' sound when the word ends in a vowel sound (e.g. "dater" instead of "data").
- arnsholt 3y agoThat’s called an intrusive r: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linking_and_intrusive_R https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linking_and_intrusive_R Originally comes from a final r being pronounced before a word starting with a vowel, and then that cropping up in places with no final r.
- arrowsmith 3y agoAs in the Beatles song A Day in the Life: I saw-r-a film today, oh boooy
- denton-scratch 3y agoYeah, that sounds like classic Scouse to me, but you certainly hear it in other UK regional accents.
- arrowsmith 3y agoIs it a regional thing? I have a very "standard" middle-class home counties English accent and I use the intrusive r.
- kzrdude 3y agoI'm extremely underqualified (non-native speaker) but first time I heard this and paid attention was from Dave Chinner (linux developer) who is australian and he was using a very pronounced linking r.
- SilasX 3y agoOr Oasis’s “Champagne Supernova” sounding (to my American ear) like “supin’ over”. Also, The Lincoln Lawyer has an Australian actor playing a character (Cisco) with a gruff, throaty American accident, but at one point it slips through and he says “Lisa” as “Liser”.
- denton-scratch 3y agoFrench pronunciation has something like this. They can't abide a word that ends in a vowel-sound smooshing into a following word that starts with a vowel-sound. So, for example, the word "suis" is pronounced "swee", unless the next word lacks an initial consonant, in which case the trailing 's' is sounded. So "Je suis anglais" is pronounced as "Je sweez anglais". Compare "Je suis francais" ("Je swee francais").
- pessimizer 3y agoPretty sure that English non-rhoticity started with higher-caste London people trying to sound French.
- froddd 3y agoThis is called “faire la liaison” (“make the link”) between the two words. If the first word ends with a consonant, and the next word starts with a vowel, then do pronounce that last consonant.
- jhanschoo 3y agoIn most cases, it is more a preservation of sounds that have been dropped elsewhere. But see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liaison_(French)#Liaison_on_inverted_verbs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liaison_(French)#Liaison_on_in... , e.g. "parle-t-on", "a-t-il"
- kmill 3y agoInterestingly, when people speak slowly it comes out as "je swee zanglais". The terminal sound is deposited onto the following word!
- denton-scratch 3y agoAnother example: there's a French children's song with the line: "Pendouillez moi avec" ("hang me as well" - don't ask). I have a recording of this song, and it's pronounced "Pendouillez moi za vec" (equal stress on each of the last three syllables). What's interesting is that the intruding consonant isn't an otherwise-silent 's' that is being sounded; it's completely spurious.
- walthamstow 3y agoOur Aussie data scientist does it at the front of data as well, so if comes out 'dartah'
- arrowsmith 3y agoOnly if the next word starts with a vowel.
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- thewix 3y agoCommon in the States too. I'm from Eastern MA and work in Boston. If I order a "vodka, soda" it sounds normal, but if I say "vodka AND soda" then "vodka" becomes "vodkar". My accent is a pretty standard Eastern New England accent.
- vintermann 3y agoI've taken Andrew Ng's coursera courses. I'm almost blind to American dialects (compared to Norwegian dialects the changes feel extremely subtle), but I noticed that one! "Dater science" was definitely on the "agender"! But I don't feel like all Americans have it that strongly.