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The bread that tastes good to most is the one that has shitloads of sugar added. Good for the company bad for people. Salmonella only hurts a few people and no

The bread that tastes good to most is the one that has shitloads of sugar added. Good for the company bad for people. Salmonella only hurts a few people and not the company, and skimping on cleaning gives execs bigger bonuses. There's tons of regulations that are good and well intentioned. Shit, even with your example of chocolate in the US capitalism got us shitty ass Hershey "chocolate". Why would that happen ya think?

erulabs 3y ago
You mean by far and away the cheapest possible chocolate and bread money can buy? The chocolate and bread the majority of us grew up with because it was cheaper than dirt and it was all we could afford? Why do you think healthier options have been flooding shelves for 20 years now? We’re getting wealthier, and our standards are going up. Don’t make the mistake of mandating your standards onto others ‘for their own good’. Sometimes availability is the goal, not the quality of a good.
- Nifty3929 3y ago
  Or ignoring the cost of those standards, as measured by a corresponding reduction in goods produced proportional to the additional effort those standards require.
eru 3y ago
> The bread that tastes good to most is the one that has shitloads of sugar added. Good for the company bad for people. In all the places I lived, you can buy different kinds of bread. My taste buds prefer bread without sugar added. (And that's also the most common kind in Germany, where I grew up.) If you need a nanny that bans you from consuming sugary bread, please hire one. (There might be some laws in Germany that ban you from calling stuff with too much sugar in it 'Brot', but you can still make it and sell it under a more creative name. So no regulation keeps this kind of product off the market in Germany.) > Shit, even with your example of chocolate in the US capitalism got us shitty ass Hershey "chocolate". Why would that happen ya think? The market provides what customers are willing to pay for. I don't know why mainstream Americans have weird taste in chocolate. Germans get the kind of chocolate they are willing to pay for. And Americans get the kind of chocolate they are willing to pay for. As far as I can tell, it's perfectly legal to sell Hershey's in Germany. (You might just have to get creative with the name, I'm not sure.) There's about as much 'capitalism' in German chocolate as in American chocolate. Lest you think everything is great in Germany, they have their own weirdness. Eg in mainstream German supermarkets you can't find the quality of rice that would be acceptable in eg Singapore. You'd have to go out of your way to a specialist store and pay a premium. It's perfectly legal in both Singapore and Germany to sell low quality rice. Mainstream Germans just don't care enough.
- 2muchcoffeeman 3y ago
  >If you need a nanny that bans you from consuming sugary bread, please hire one. Reading through some of these comments makes me wonder why people still hold this sort of opinion. Companies are actively attempting to screw you over like hiding the functionality of a printer behind a sticker. It's active deception. Are we all to become experts in everything and join all the specialty forums? Where is the time to make an informed decision coming from? Do you think consumer protection agencies formed because consumers were being told all the relevant information to make an informed decision?
  - eru 3y ago
    Why do you need that time? You just buy the printer that an expert you trust suggests to you. That expert could be your knowledgeable friend, it could be a review in a blog or it could even be a retailer like Costco. Having a reputation for recommending quality products is valuable. And if they screw up a few times, they can lose it quickly. So they are going to be careful and protect it. (Or rather, the retailers that keep their reputation are those who have been careful.)
- SomeRndName11 3y ago
  LOL, most liberatrains are not even aware how deeply they depend on the "nanny". Starting with law enforcement and capturing those who counterfeit money.
  - eru 3y ago
    Private Scottish (and Canadian) banks that issues bank notes in the 19th century did just fine catching counterfeiters. See https://www.cato.org/blog/more-counterfeit-currency https://www.cato.org/blog/more-counterfeit-currency Law enforcement is a function that even many libertarians, but not all, reserve for the 'nanny'. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night-watchman_state https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night-watchman_state
    - SomeRndName11 3y ago

erulabs 3y ago

You mean by far and away the cheapest possible chocolate and bread money can buy? The chocolate and bread the majority of us grew up with because it was cheaper than dirt and it was all we could afford? Why do you think healthier options have been flooding shelves for 20 years now? We’re getting wealthier, and our standards are going up. Don’t make the mistake of mandating your standards onto others ‘for their own good’. Sometimes availability is the goal, not the quality of a good.

Nifty3929 3y ago
Or ignoring the cost of those standards, as measured by a corresponding reduction in goods produced proportional to the additional effort those standards require.

eru 3y ago

> The bread that tastes good to most is the one that has shitloads of sugar added. Good for the company bad for people. In all the places I lived, you can buy different kinds of bread. My taste buds prefer bread without sugar added. (And that's also the most common kind in Germany, where I grew up.) If you need a nanny that bans you from consuming sugary bread, please hire one. (There might be some laws in Germany that ban you from calling stuff with too much sugar in it 'Brot', but you can still make it and sell it under a more creative name. So no regulation keeps this kind of product off the market in Germany.) > Shit, even with your example of chocolate in the US capitalism got us shitty ass Hershey "chocolate". Why would that happen ya think? The market provides what customers are willing to pay for. I don't know why mainstream Americans have weird taste in chocolate. Germans get the kind of chocolate they are willing to pay for. And Americans get the kind of chocolate they are willing to pay for. As far as I can tell, it's perfectly legal to sell Hershey's in Germany. (You might just have to get creative with the name, I'm not sure.) There's about as much 'capitalism' in German chocolate as in American chocolate. Lest you think everything is great in Germany, they have their own weirdness. Eg in mainstream German supermarkets you can't find the quality of rice that would be acceptable in eg Singapore. You'd have to go out of your way to a specialist store and pay a premium. It's perfectly legal in both Singapore and Germany to sell low quality rice. Mainstream Germans just don't care enough.

2muchcoffeeman 3y ago
>If you need a nanny that bans you from consuming sugary bread, please hire one. Reading through some of these comments makes me wonder why people still hold this sort of opinion. Companies are actively attempting to screw you over like hiding the functionality of a printer behind a sticker. It's active deception. Are we all to become experts in everything and join all the specialty forums? Where is the time to make an informed decision coming from? Do you think consumer protection agencies formed because consumers were being told all the relevant information to make an informed decision?
- eru 3y ago
  Why do you need that time? You just buy the printer that an expert you trust suggests to you. That expert could be your knowledgeable friend, it could be a review in a blog or it could even be a retailer like Costco. Having a reputation for recommending quality products is valuable. And if they screw up a few times, they can lose it quickly. So they are going to be careful and protect it. (Or rather, the retailers that keep their reputation are those who have been careful.)
SomeRndName11 3y ago
LOL, most liberatrains are not even aware how deeply they depend on the "nanny". Starting with law enforcement and capturing those who counterfeit money.
- eru 3y ago
  Private Scottish (and Canadian) banks that issues bank notes in the 19th century did just fine catching counterfeiters. See https://www.cato.org/blog/more-counterfeit-currency https://www.cato.org/blog/more-counterfeit-currency Law enforcement is a function that even many libertarians, but not all, reserve for the 'nanny'. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night-watchman_state https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night-watchman_state
  - SomeRndName11 3y ago