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These… are not ideologically convenient results. More generally I’m curious for some deeper research beyond these correlations, but don’t expect it to happen

YeBanKo 3y ago
There are indeed some obvious questions left. Haven’t looked at the study, but the article does not mentioned taking into account reward or perceived fairness of reward allocation. One of the most important life lessons for me was on a good work ethic: high quality output, attention to details, commit and deliver, honesty, and, yes, go extra mile. And then later the last one got updated: go extra mile, if it is appreciated. Is it possible that a non-white worker is more likely to believe that extra effort is not gonna be appreciated. So there maybe a causal relationship between willing to go extra mile and perceived fairness of reward allocation.
- mensetmanusman 3y ago
  Extra effort has resulted in many immigrant CEOs in the US. It’s one reason why the US is still so dominant, extra effort immigration is vastly rewarded.
  - pfannkuchen 3y ago
    That’s assuming that they didn’t eke out a win in a tournament, and are instead a transformational influence. Has there been an increase in performance over prior or contemporary Euro rooted CEOs? Or would the alternative people have had roughly similar performance?
    - lupire 3y ago
      Statistics says it's unlikely for small differencees to have large effects.
  - YeBanKo 3y ago
    > Extra effort has resulted in many immigrant CEOs in the US. This does not seem to be related to the topic and unsubstantiated at best. The US is almost by design an immigrant nation. Not even sure what extra effort immigration is.
lupire 3y ago
It's a stufy of self-reported subjective experience. "White men have an inflated self-image" or "White men feel more comfortable contributing in team environments [because they are socially dominant and get them their way]" is plenty "ideologically convenient".

YeBanKo 3y ago

There are indeed some obvious questions left. Haven’t looked at the study, but the article does not mentioned taking into account reward or perceived fairness of reward allocation. One of the most important life lessons for me was on a good work ethic: high quality output, attention to details, commit and deliver, honesty, and, yes, go extra mile. And then later the last one got updated: go extra mile, if it is appreciated. Is it possible that a non-white worker is more likely to believe that extra effort is not gonna be appreciated. So there maybe a causal relationship between willing to go extra mile and perceived fairness of reward allocation.

mensetmanusman 3y ago
Extra effort has resulted in many immigrant CEOs in the US. It’s one reason why the US is still so dominant, extra effort immigration is vastly rewarded.
- pfannkuchen 3y ago
  That’s assuming that they didn’t eke out a win in a tournament, and are instead a transformational influence. Has there been an increase in performance over prior or contemporary Euro rooted CEOs? Or would the alternative people have had roughly similar performance?
  - lupire 3y ago
    Statistics says it's unlikely for small differencees to have large effects.
- YeBanKo 3y ago
  > Extra effort has resulted in many immigrant CEOs in the US. This does not seem to be related to the topic and unsubstantiated at best. The US is almost by design an immigrant nation. Not even sure what extra effort immigration is.

lupire 3y ago

It's a stufy of self-reported subjective experience. "White men have an inflated self-image" or "White men feel more comfortable contributing in team environments [because they are socially dominant and get them their way]" is plenty "ideologically convenient".