3 ms·

Is there a source for the 0.3mg, because the most sleep supplements around here I've tried seem to have at least 0.5mg, or at least 1mg. They contain a mixture

Is there a source for the 0.3mg, because the most sleep supplements around here I've tried seem to have at least 0.5mg, or at least 1mg. They contain a mixture of other things as well, like magnesium, leonurus cadiaca, humulus lupulus. Melatonin only supplements mostly seem to start at around 2mg. There may be few of them at 1mg. I can't tell if I've personally had any effects from melatonin specifically though. Sometimes I may have sleep issues and those nights, I think none of those supplements do anything.

ChrisMarshallNY 3y ago
I'll see if I can find the posting. It was a fairly exhaustive article. It was enough for me to give it a try. EDIT: I think this was it. Looks like it's had a couple of turns here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17632668 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17632668
- sottol 3y ago
  Yes, I think that's the post. I was also just going to post that. What I ended up doing is buy smallest dose of melatonin gummy-bears (3mg afair) and they were easier to cut into smaller pieces/lower doses than pills. I occasionally use these to adjust my circadian rhythm. Naturally I go to bed around 2-4am but I have kids that wake us up at the crack of dawn.
  - mewpmewp2 3y ago
    Interesting. Are you certain that in those gummy-bears the melatonin would be spread around the gummy bear equally as opposed to being injected or similar into a single place? I'm not sure how they are combined with melatonin. Edit: looking around a bit, it does seem like melatonin or supplement ingredients are added and mixed before they are molded, so at least in theory it should be spread around fairly evenly.
  - noodlenotes 3y ago
    My nearby stores have started carrying 1 mg children's melatonin gummies.
mtlmtlmtlmtl 3y ago
Dunno about the US, but in Norway there a prescription version that's 2mg total in an extended release formulation. It's a fairly optimal dosage repeated throughout the night. It's technically meant for elderly people who can't stay asleep very well, but it's been pretty easy to get it off-label(doctors will basically be thrilled to be "drug-seeked" for just melatonin instead of benzos or Z-drugs for once, IME), and the price is reasonable, especially now there's a generic version. Did absolute wonders for my overall sleep quality anyway. And I struggle with both insomnia and frequent awakenings.
vl 3y ago
Yes, just get liquid melatonin from Amazon and you can dose it super precisely using small syringe.
webnrrd2k 3y ago
Just a suggestion for everyone that takes melatonin -- get some liquid drops. I have a bottle that has 3mg per 30 drops, so I take 3 drops on my tongue an hour or two before I want to fall asleep. Liquid drops are the way to go. [I just posted this upthread, but reposting because I think it's a great way to go]
- maksimur 3y ago
  Depends on how frequent you use it. I had to throw a bottle after expiring because I take melatonin at most a few times per month to "recalibrate" my circadian rhythm.
n4te 3y ago
Read this: https://nootropicsdepot.com/articles/melatonin-supplements-did-you-know-this-over-the-counter-sleep-aid-is-often-overdosed/ https://nootropicsdepot.com/articles/melatonin-supplements-d...

ChrisMarshallNY 3y ago

I'll see if I can find the posting. It was a fairly exhaustive article. It was enough for me to give it a try. EDIT: I think this was it. Looks like it's had a couple of turns here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17632668 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17632668

sottol 3y ago
Yes, I think that's the post. I was also just going to post that. What I ended up doing is buy smallest dose of melatonin gummy-bears (3mg afair) and they were easier to cut into smaller pieces/lower doses than pills. I occasionally use these to adjust my circadian rhythm. Naturally I go to bed around 2-4am but I have kids that wake us up at the crack of dawn.
- mewpmewp2 3y ago
  Interesting. Are you certain that in those gummy-bears the melatonin would be spread around the gummy bear equally as opposed to being injected or similar into a single place? I'm not sure how they are combined with melatonin. Edit: looking around a bit, it does seem like melatonin or supplement ingredients are added and mixed before they are molded, so at least in theory it should be spread around fairly evenly.
- noodlenotes 3y ago
  My nearby stores have started carrying 1 mg children's melatonin gummies.

mtlmtlmtlmtl 3y ago

Dunno about the US, but in Norway there a prescription version that's 2mg total in an extended release formulation. It's a fairly optimal dosage repeated throughout the night. It's technically meant for elderly people who can't stay asleep very well, but it's been pretty easy to get it off-label(doctors will basically be thrilled to be "drug-seeked" for just melatonin instead of benzos or Z-drugs for once, IME), and the price is reasonable, especially now there's a generic version. Did absolute wonders for my overall sleep quality anyway. And I struggle with both insomnia and frequent awakenings.

vl 3y ago

Yes, just get liquid melatonin from Amazon and you can dose it super precisely using small syringe.

webnrrd2k 3y ago

Just a suggestion for everyone that takes melatonin -- get some liquid drops. I have a bottle that has 3mg per 30 drops, so I take 3 drops on my tongue an hour or two before I want to fall asleep. Liquid drops are the way to go. [I just posted this upthread, but reposting because I think it's a great way to go]

maksimur 3y ago
Depends on how frequent you use it. I had to throw a bottle after expiring because I take melatonin at most a few times per month to "recalibrate" my circadian rhythm.

n4te 3y ago

Read this: https://nootropicsdepot.com/articles/melatonin-supplements-did-you-know-this-over-the-counter-sleep-aid-is-often-overdosed/ https://nootropicsdepot.com/articles/melatonin-supplements-d...