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Judge clears way for DOJ’s big case against Google to go to trial

33 points by pg_1234 3y ago

pg_1234 3y ago
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rolph 3y ago
SAN FRANCISCO — A federal judge said the Department of Justice’s landmark case alleging Google’s dominance over the online search business is anti-competitive can go ahead, throwing out some of the government’s claims but ruling that a trial is still necessary. Google had asked for the judge to make a ruling before the trial, which is scheduled for September. Some of the government’s claims, including those put together by a consortium of state attorneys general that argued the way Google designed its search engine page was unfairly harming competitors like Yelp, were dismissed. But the allegations that Google’s overall business practices constitute a monopoly that violates the 1890 Sherman Act still deserve a trial, the judge said. The trial will be a major test for Google and the massive business empire it has assembled over the past two decades. The company is still the dominant portal to the internet, exercising immense power over what people see online. The case is the culmination of one of many antitrust investigations launched against Google and other Big Tech companies over the last several years. “People have more ways than ever to access information, and they choose to use Google because it’s helpful. We look forward to showing at trial that promoting and distributing our services is both legal and pro-competitive,” said Kent Walker, Google’s president of global affairs and chief legal officer. The DOJ didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment. The trial will begin in the midst of a boom in generative AI — a wave of new technology that has been pushed by Google’s competitors and has thrown the company onto its back foot. Google executives have already begun arguing that the rise of AI companies like OpenAI shows that the tech world is still competitive and that the company doesn’t have an unfair grip on who wins and who loses, as some antitrust experts and the company’s competitors have argued.
- e40 3y ago
  I see 3 *’s as the comment. What does this mean? EDIT: that was on mobile. Now, on desktop, I see the comment. This has happened a bunch of times in the last month or so. HN bug?
  - rolph 3y ago
    it is supposed to be : https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/08/04/google-doj-search-trial/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/08/04/google-... [ A federal judge said the Department of Justice’s landmark case alleging Google’s dominance over the online search business is anti-competitive can go ahead, throwing out some of the government’s claims but ruling that a trial is still necessary. [ Google had asked for the judge to make a ruling before the trial, which is scheduled for September. Some of the government’s claims, including those put together by a consortium of state attorneys general that argued the way Google designed its search engine page was unfairly harming competitors like Yelp, were dismissed. [ But the allegations that Google’s overall business practices constitute a monopoly that violates the 1890 Sherman Act still deserve a trial, the judge said. The trial will be a major test for Google and the massive business empire it has assembled over the past two decades. The company is still the dominant portal to the internet, exercising immense power over what people see online. The case is the culmination of one of many antitrust investigations launched against Google and other Big Tech companies over the last several years. “People have more ways than ever to access information, and they choose to use Google because it’s helpful. We look forward to showing at trial that promoting and distributing our services is both legal and pro-competitive,” said Kent Walker, Google’s president of global affairs and chief legal officer. The DOJ didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment. The trial will begin in the midst of a boom in generative AI — a wave of new technology that has been pushed by Google’s competitors and has thrown the company onto its back foot. Google executives have already begun arguing that the rise of AI companies like OpenAI shows that the tech world is still competitive and that the company doesn’t have an unfair grip on who wins and who loses, as some antitrust experts and the company’s competitors have argued. ========================================================== the archive link : https://archive.ph/bPHRk https://archive.ph/bPHRk seems to be not needed from where im looking, and just throws up captchas, so ascii wall for everyone to be able to read it.
JohnMakin 3y ago
I'm not a lawyer, but to me it is obvious google engages in flagrant anti-trust practices with its search. If you don't believe me, google "migrating off of google cloud" and see what comes up (nearly 100% results about how to migrate TO google cloud). I'm sure they're doing stuff like this everywhere, who would stop them?
- waithuh 3y ago
  In my honest opinion, not defending Google (nor do i have any relation to them), they are just pulling the ol' Google+ tactic. Instead of the search engine doing search engine things it goes on to aggressively advertise Google products upon detecting some keywords. Im purely speculating and recalling here though, it wouldnt be a surprising move from Google if they did that.

33 points by pg_1234 3y ago

pg_1234 3y ago

https://archive.ph/bPHRk https://archive.ph/bPHRk

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rolph 3y ago

SAN FRANCISCO — A federal judge said the Department of Justice’s landmark case alleging Google’s dominance over the online search business is anti-competitive can go ahead, throwing out some of the government’s claims but ruling that a trial is still necessary. Google had asked for the judge to make a ruling before the trial, which is scheduled for September. Some of the government’s claims, including those put together by a consortium of state attorneys general that argued the way Google designed its search engine page was unfairly harming competitors like Yelp, were dismissed. But the allegations that Google’s overall business practices constitute a monopoly that violates the 1890 Sherman Act still deserve a trial, the judge said. The trial will be a major test for Google and the massive business empire it has assembled over the past two decades. The company is still the dominant portal to the internet, exercising immense power over what people see online. The case is the culmination of one of many antitrust investigations launched against Google and other Big Tech companies over the last several years. “People have more ways than ever to access information, and they choose to use Google because it’s helpful. We look forward to showing at trial that promoting and distributing our services is both legal and pro-competitive,” said Kent Walker, Google’s president of global affairs and chief legal officer. The DOJ didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment. The trial will begin in the midst of a boom in generative AI — a wave of new technology that has been pushed by Google’s competitors and has thrown the company onto its back foot. Google executives have already begun arguing that the rise of AI companies like OpenAI shows that the tech world is still competitive and that the company doesn’t have an unfair grip on who wins and who loses, as some antitrust experts and the company’s competitors have argued.

e40 3y ago
I see 3 *’s as the comment. What does this mean? EDIT: that was on mobile. Now, on desktop, I see the comment. This has happened a bunch of times in the last month or so. HN bug?
- rolph 3y ago
  it is supposed to be : https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/08/04/google-doj-search-trial/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/08/04/google-... [ A federal judge said the Department of Justice’s landmark case alleging Google’s dominance over the online search business is anti-competitive can go ahead, throwing out some of the government’s claims but ruling that a trial is still necessary. [ Google had asked for the judge to make a ruling before the trial, which is scheduled for September. Some of the government’s claims, including those put together by a consortium of state attorneys general that argued the way Google designed its search engine page was unfairly harming competitors like Yelp, were dismissed. [ But the allegations that Google’s overall business practices constitute a monopoly that violates the 1890 Sherman Act still deserve a trial, the judge said. The trial will be a major test for Google and the massive business empire it has assembled over the past two decades. The company is still the dominant portal to the internet, exercising immense power over what people see online. The case is the culmination of one of many antitrust investigations launched against Google and other Big Tech companies over the last several years. “People have more ways than ever to access information, and they choose to use Google because it’s helpful. We look forward to showing at trial that promoting and distributing our services is both legal and pro-competitive,” said Kent Walker, Google’s president of global affairs and chief legal officer. The DOJ didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment. The trial will begin in the midst of a boom in generative AI — a wave of new technology that has been pushed by Google’s competitors and has thrown the company onto its back foot. Google executives have already begun arguing that the rise of AI companies like OpenAI shows that the tech world is still competitive and that the company doesn’t have an unfair grip on who wins and who loses, as some antitrust experts and the company’s competitors have argued. ========================================================== the archive link : https://archive.ph/bPHRk https://archive.ph/bPHRk seems to be not needed from where im looking, and just throws up captchas, so ascii wall for everyone to be able to read it.

JohnMakin 3y ago

I'm not a lawyer, but to me it is obvious google engages in flagrant anti-trust practices with its search. If you don't believe me, google "migrating off of google cloud" and see what comes up (nearly 100% results about how to migrate TO google cloud). I'm sure they're doing stuff like this everywhere, who would stop them?

waithuh 3y ago
In my honest opinion, not defending Google (nor do i have any relation to them), they are just pulling the ol' Google+ tactic. Instead of the search engine doing search engine things it goes on to aggressively advertise Google products upon detecting some keywords. Im purely speculating and recalling here though, it wouldnt be a surprising move from Google if they did that.