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Most of the companies in this space are breaking so many laws they are operating outside the US. Near the beginning of the pandemic, when they resumed their ca
by e40 3y ago
Most of the companies in this space are breaking so many laws they are operating outside the US. Near the beginning of the pandemic, when they resumed their calls (that WAS a nice few months!) I would mess with them. I could keep the "Mexican vacation" scam calls on the line for 20 minutes before telling them I knew they were scammers. About 1/2 the time they hung up, but the other times they would argue with me about why I would do this.
The initial call was clearly someone outside the US. The 2nd level was someone with better English skills, but the real scammers at the 3rd level spoke perfect English and were likely inside the US.
And, the initial call to me was from a spoofed number, likely from an owned PBX.
It's a LOT of work to track down these companies. There was a particular scam related to CC rates and I was able to find a lawyer in TX that had successfully prosecuted the company that did the scam. I called him and he picked up after 1 ring. We had a nice conversation, but his advice was: do not mess with these people (by wasting their time intentionally). They are not nice people and after he helped shut them down, they just popped up somewhere else.