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I don't get why "that has been the way" is at all a reason. > you don’t get to choose when you are woken up, or how nice the people are to you when it happens.
by insanitybit 3y ago
I don't get why "that has been the way" is at all a reason.
> you don’t get to choose when you are woken up, or how nice the people are to you when it happens.
No one has a right to have people be nice to them. It is a reasonable question to ask if people, who were adults with rights, have a right to live again - but I think saying "they have no utility therefor they don't" is a disgusting way to look at it.
- janalsncm 3y agoI think you’re misunderstanding what I’m saying. I want people to have rights in 500 years. And there’s a good chance they will. My point is that they might not. You might also be thinking that by “rights” I am referring to some abstract ideal about inalienable rights people should or do have. I am not. I am referring to rights in the practical, legal sense of those things your government cares to protect. Well, for a person born into chattel slavery in 1830, you might say they had a right to not be a slave, but in a practical, legal sense no they did not. You and I both agree that “no utility = no rights” is morally wrong. But it isn’t up to us. It will be up to people in the future.
- insanitybit 3y agoOK, so I think I misread this: > And more importantly, what guarantees about rights and quality of life do unfrozen people think they’re going to have? The correct answer should be: none. As if you were advocating that - the "should be" threw me off. If we're just asking "what rights do we expect people to have" idk, I wouldn't speculate.