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Greetings from Austria! We have a similar thing going on where you can buy an every-train-and-other-public-transport-in-Austria ticket. It is called the "clima

Greetings from Austria! We have a similar thing going on where you can buy an every-train-and-other-public-transport-in-Austria ticket. It is called the "climate ticket" ( https://www.klimaticket.at/ https://www.klimaticket.at/ ) The price is EUR 1.095/year for regular adults (1.205 for the family ticket [=1 adult + up to 4 kids] and 825 for youth/seniors) I'm a happy owner since it's 2 year existence and have recently been baffled by the prices DB is asking when I did a trip to Berlin by ICE... It's a great peace of mind to just hop onto any bus/tram/train in the country and not have to worry about tickets, and i think it's a great step towards getting more traffic from the streets to the rail.

mudita 3y ago
That sounds more like the BahnCard 100, which costs 4.339 Euro per year. The Deutschlandticket is only valid for slow, regional trains, not faster long distance trains.
- s1mplicissimus 3y ago
  is the Bahncard 100 popular? Asking because it seemed to me recently every 2nd passenger (#samplesize) pulled out their Klimaticket for the ticket checks. I'd expect the 4k option for all of germany to be less popular (in % of ticket holders/population) due to pure odds (aka chances are high an average person won't regularly need to journey from hamburg to munich, but they might regularly journey somewhere inside their Bundesland. so it's less likely it's "worth it" for people?
  - looperhacks 3y ago
    Very few people own a Bahncard 100. It's only useful if you need it for your job/business, otherwise it probably won't pay for itself. Most people prefer the car or plane (if you frequent between big cities) anyway
    - barrkel 3y ago
      Internet connectivity is surprisingly poor on German trains. In 1st class, between Basel and Hanover, most of the time my phone (with Swisscom SIM) got better connectivity than the onboard wifi. Considering that this route connects Zurich and Frankfurt, you'd think there would be a smidgen more investment in bandwidth.
      - phreeza 3y ago
        The wifi on the trains comes from the cellular network, too. If you experienced cell phone working better than the on board wifi, that was almost certainly some other issue, the performances are very correlated. The problem is not so much with the trains, it's just that cellphone coverage is just terrible in Germany generally, especially compared to Switzerland.
      - pixelpoet 3y ago
        If there's one thing Germany is uniquely terrible at, it's internet connectivity. Absolutely mindblowingly bad, speaking as someone who grew up with Telkom monopoly in South Africa in the 90s.
        ulfw 3y ago
        100% agree. I was in Frankfurt last week for the first time in many years (I live in Asia now). Roamed in Germany's largest and most expensive cell phone network, Deutsche Telekom T-Mobile. In the city centre near Goetheplatz I had... drumm roll. EDGE. 2.5G In July 2023. This is the home of DE-CIX, the European continents largest internet exchange. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DE-CIX https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DE-CIX
      - kingofpandora 3y ago
        It's Germany. There's nothing at all surprising about it.
    - thesaintlives 3y ago
      There is also bahncard 25 and 50. It basically means how much of a percentage you get off the ticket price. Bahncard 50 first class is quite good if you travel a few times a month. Soon pays off and first class is usually not bad..
  - Barrin92 3y ago
    >is the Bahncard 100 popular? I went to uni in Cologne and a lot of banker types who would daily commute from Cologne to Frankfurt always had one. Very popular with business people doing these mid-range round trips. For regular travelers too expensive though.
- danw1979 3y ago
  In the UK, a LNER season ticket (unlimited journeys) on just one route (York to London, 2 hours) on the “fast” trains (200km/h) costs nearly 20,000 Euro per year.
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t0mas88 3y ago
Wow that's a low price in Austria. In the Netherlands it's 4200 euro per year for just the trains, you still have to pay for bus and metro on top of that.
- thepangolino 3y ago
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- riezebos 3y ago
  There are alternatives though, if you don't need to travel during peak hours it drops to €1440. (https://www.ns.nl/en/nsflex/webshop#/abonnement/dal-vrij https://www.ns.nl/en/nsflex/webshop#/abonnement/dal-vrij)
jokteur 3y ago
It's 3860chf in Switzerland, valid for any public transport, even boats. However, they are talking raising the price once again, and Switzerland is not interested in making this cheaper.
exhilaration 3y ago
American readers may be confused by these prices: EUR 1.095 is one thousand ninety-five Euros.
- glimshe 3y ago
  For that reason I tend to skip the "." or "," until we get to over 7 digits!
remus 3y ago
In stark contrast, in the UK an annual season ticket for a single train route between 2 stations 20 miles apart, is £1400 or about 1600 euro! Rail travel here is just farcical.
- defrost 3y ago
  Assuming "there and back" is 40 miles per day, then five days a week for 52 weeks a year (maybe the train gets used on holidays) comes to 10,400 miles per year travel. The fuel cost for that in the UK seems to be ~ £400 more than the season ticket which indicates it's a saving for some. Sure, it could be cheaper.
  - rantallion 3y ago
    The season ticket only covering station-to-station travel means you're still left with covering the leg at either end. As an example, this is likely still going involve a car journey plus parking costs at 'local' station, and a Tube trip to the office at the other end. I think any potential cost saving quickly disappears, while still being left paying for only a single route.

mudita 3y ago

That sounds more like the BahnCard 100, which costs 4.339 Euro per year. The Deutschlandticket is only valid for slow, regional trains, not faster long distance trains.

s1mplicissimus 3y ago
is the Bahncard 100 popular? Asking because it seemed to me recently every 2nd passenger (#samplesize) pulled out their Klimaticket for the ticket checks. I'd expect the 4k option for all of germany to be less popular (in % of ticket holders/population) due to pure odds (aka chances are high an average person won't regularly need to journey from hamburg to munich, but they might regularly journey somewhere inside their Bundesland. so it's less likely it's "worth it" for people?
- looperhacks 3y ago
  Very few people own a Bahncard 100. It's only useful if you need it for your job/business, otherwise it probably won't pay for itself. Most people prefer the car or plane (if you frequent between big cities) anyway
  - barrkel 3y ago
    Internet connectivity is surprisingly poor on German trains. In 1st class, between Basel and Hanover, most of the time my phone (with Swisscom SIM) got better connectivity than the onboard wifi. Considering that this route connects Zurich and Frankfurt, you'd think there would be a smidgen more investment in bandwidth.
    - phreeza 3y ago
      The wifi on the trains comes from the cellular network, too. If you experienced cell phone working better than the on board wifi, that was almost certainly some other issue, the performances are very correlated. The problem is not so much with the trains, it's just that cellphone coverage is just terrible in Germany generally, especially compared to Switzerland.
    - pixelpoet 3y ago
      If there's one thing Germany is uniquely terrible at, it's internet connectivity. Absolutely mindblowingly bad, speaking as someone who grew up with Telkom monopoly in South Africa in the 90s.
      - ulfw 3y ago
        100% agree. I was in Frankfurt last week for the first time in many years (I live in Asia now). Roamed in Germany's largest and most expensive cell phone network, Deutsche Telekom T-Mobile. In the city centre near Goetheplatz I had... drumm roll. EDGE. 2.5G In July 2023. This is the home of DE-CIX, the European continents largest internet exchange. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DE-CIX https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DE-CIX
    - kingofpandora 3y ago
      It's Germany. There's nothing at all surprising about it.
  - thesaintlives 3y ago
    There is also bahncard 25 and 50. It basically means how much of a percentage you get off the ticket price. Bahncard 50 first class is quite good if you travel a few times a month. Soon pays off and first class is usually not bad..
- Barrin92 3y ago
  >is the Bahncard 100 popular? I went to uni in Cologne and a lot of banker types who would daily commute from Cologne to Frankfurt always had one. Very popular with business people doing these mid-range round trips. For regular travelers too expensive though.
danw1979 3y ago
In the UK, a LNER season ticket (unlimited journeys) on just one route (York to London, 2 hours) on the “fast” trains (200km/h) costs nearly 20,000 Euro per year.

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t0mas88 3y ago

Wow that's a low price in Austria. In the Netherlands it's 4200 euro per year for just the trains, you still have to pay for bus and metro on top of that.

thepangolino 3y ago
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riezebos 3y ago
There are alternatives though, if you don't need to travel during peak hours it drops to €1440. (https://www.ns.nl/en/nsflex/webshop#/abonnement/dal-vrij https://www.ns.nl/en/nsflex/webshop#/abonnement/dal-vrij)

jokteur 3y ago

It's 3860chf in Switzerland, valid for any public transport, even boats. However, they are talking raising the price once again, and Switzerland is not interested in making this cheaper.

exhilaration 3y ago

American readers may be confused by these prices: EUR 1.095 is one thousand ninety-five Euros.

glimshe 3y ago
For that reason I tend to skip the "." or "," until we get to over 7 digits!

remus 3y ago

In stark contrast, in the UK an annual season ticket for a single train route between 2 stations 20 miles apart, is £1400 or about 1600 euro! Rail travel here is just farcical.

defrost 3y ago
Assuming "there and back" is 40 miles per day, then five days a week for 52 weeks a year (maybe the train gets used on holidays) comes to 10,400 miles per year travel. The fuel cost for that in the UK seems to be ~ £400 more than the season ticket which indicates it's a saving for some. Sure, it could be cheaper.
- rantallion 3y ago
  The season ticket only covering station-to-station travel means you're still left with covering the leg at either end. As an example, this is likely still going involve a car journey plus parking costs at 'local' station, and a Tube trip to the office at the other end. I think any potential cost saving quickly disappears, while still being left paying for only a single route.