I fully agree. A math PhD without any practical skills (programming, ML, etc.) isn't that useful for the jobs market. When I mentioned hubris is my parent comme

I fully agree. A math PhD without any practical skills (programming, ML, etc.) isn't that useful for the jobs market. When I mentioned hubris is my parent comment, I was kind of referring to this: the sense among PhD students was that we could easily jump into industry because a math PhD is so valuable. But this was very, very wrong.