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It is as unreal for most people to turn to veganism as it is for cats to become vegetarians. You are asking for genetic changes, it could happen if there is a m

It is as unreal for most people to turn to veganism as it is for cats to become vegetarians. You are asking for genetic changes, it could happen if there is a major genetic bottleneck and all people who cannot subsist on a plant based diet die off and only the survivors carry on, but it would involve billions dying and is likely going to be unpleasant.

myshpa 3y ago
Cats are obligate carnivores, we are not. We're already getting 82% of calories and 63% of proteins from plants. https://ourworldindata.org/land-use-diets https://ourworldindata.org/land-use-diets "It is the position of the American Dietetic Association that appropriately planned vegetarian diets, including total vegetarian or vegan diets, are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. Well-planned vegetarian diets are appropriate for individuals during all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, and adolescence, and for athletes." - American Dietetic Association "A vegetarian or vegan diet can be suitable for everyone, regardless of their age." - NHS UK "[I]t is possible to follow a well-planned, plant-based, vegan friendly diet that supports healthy living in people of all ages, and during pregnancy and breastfeeding." - British Dietetic Association. "For adults, protein from two or more plant groups daily is like to be adequate. " - World Health Organisation https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35719615/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35719615/ Plant-based diets were protective against cancers of the digestive system, with no significant differences between different types of cancer, a meta-analysis based on 3,059,009 subjects https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/04/meat-tax-would-boost-health-and-cut-heathcare-spending-research/ https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/04/meat-tax-would-boost-health... Meat tax would boost health and cut healthcare spending: research https://www.foodingredientsfirst.com/news/over-17000-doctors-call-on-white-house-to-shape-nutrition-policy-on-plant-based-diets.html https://www.foodingredientsfirst.com/news/over-17000-doctors... Over 17,000 doctors call on White House to shape nutrition policy on plant-based diets
- distant_hat 3y ago
  "A vegetarian or vegan diet can be suitable for everyone, regardless of their age." - NHS UK This is definitely false. Newborns not given mother's milk are worse off than those that receive maternal milk. Newborns given milk that is non-dairy substitutes not incorporating dairy are unlikely to living a long time. People in predominantly vegetarian countries like India and those that eat far less animal protein live significantly shorter lives than those in countries that eat more meat.
  - myshpa 3y ago
    > Newborns not given mother's milk are worse off than those that receive maternal milk Breast milk is perfectly vegan https://www.healthline.com/health/breastfeeding/is-breast-milk-vegan https://www.healthline.com/health/breastfeeding/is-breast-mi... > those that eat far less animal protein live significantly shorter lives than those in countries that eat more meat You've got it backwards :) https://www.zmescience.com/science/diet-animal-protein-09423/ https://www.zmescience.com/science/diet-animal-protein-09423... Eating a lot of animal protein probably means you’ll have a shorter life https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/vegetarian-diets-linked-lower-mortality https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/vegetar... Vegetarian Diets Linked to Lower Mortality https://www.snexplores.org/article/low-protein-longer-life-for-some https://www.snexplores.org/article/low-protein-longer-life-f... Consuming a diet low in meat, eggs and dairy products may extend one’s life, according to two new studies. While one study was conducted in mice and the other on people, both reached the same conclusion. And both appear in the same March 4 issue of Cell Metabolism
    - distant_hat 3y ago
      You don't have to eat a lot, but you have to eat some. India is a major counterexapmle to your thesis, it has one of the lowest consumptions of animal protein and yet low life expectancy. Breast milk is animal protein, or you'd have to include dairy too. You can justify it for animal cruelty reasons, but not for health reasons.
      - 3y ago

myshpa 3y ago

Cats are obligate carnivores, we are not. We're already getting 82% of calories and 63% of proteins from plants. https://ourworldindata.org/land-use-diets https://ourworldindata.org/land-use-diets "It is the position of the American Dietetic Association that appropriately planned vegetarian diets, including total vegetarian or vegan diets, are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. Well-planned vegetarian diets are appropriate for individuals during all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, and adolescence, and for athletes." - American Dietetic Association "A vegetarian or vegan diet can be suitable for everyone, regardless of their age." - NHS UK "[I]t is possible to follow a well-planned, plant-based, vegan friendly diet that supports healthy living in people of all ages, and during pregnancy and breastfeeding." - British Dietetic Association. "For adults, protein from two or more plant groups daily is like to be adequate. " - World Health Organisation https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35719615/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35719615/ Plant-based diets were protective against cancers of the digestive system, with no significant differences between different types of cancer, a meta-analysis based on 3,059,009 subjects https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/04/meat-tax-would-boost-health-and-cut-heathcare-spending-research/ https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/04/meat-tax-would-boost-health... Meat tax would boost health and cut healthcare spending: research https://www.foodingredientsfirst.com/news/over-17000-doctors-call-on-white-house-to-shape-nutrition-policy-on-plant-based-diets.html https://www.foodingredientsfirst.com/news/over-17000-doctors... Over 17,000 doctors call on White House to shape nutrition policy on plant-based diets

distant_hat 3y ago
"A vegetarian or vegan diet can be suitable for everyone, regardless of their age." - NHS UK This is definitely false. Newborns not given mother's milk are worse off than those that receive maternal milk. Newborns given milk that is non-dairy substitutes not incorporating dairy are unlikely to living a long time. People in predominantly vegetarian countries like India and those that eat far less animal protein live significantly shorter lives than those in countries that eat more meat.
- myshpa 3y ago
  > Newborns not given mother's milk are worse off than those that receive maternal milk Breast milk is perfectly vegan https://www.healthline.com/health/breastfeeding/is-breast-milk-vegan https://www.healthline.com/health/breastfeeding/is-breast-mi... > those that eat far less animal protein live significantly shorter lives than those in countries that eat more meat You've got it backwards :) https://www.zmescience.com/science/diet-animal-protein-09423/ https://www.zmescience.com/science/diet-animal-protein-09423... Eating a lot of animal protein probably means you’ll have a shorter life https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/vegetarian-diets-linked-lower-mortality https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/vegetar... Vegetarian Diets Linked to Lower Mortality https://www.snexplores.org/article/low-protein-longer-life-for-some https://www.snexplores.org/article/low-protein-longer-life-f... Consuming a diet low in meat, eggs and dairy products may extend one’s life, according to two new studies. While one study was conducted in mice and the other on people, both reached the same conclusion. And both appear in the same March 4 issue of Cell Metabolism
  - distant_hat 3y ago
    You don't have to eat a lot, but you have to eat some. India is a major counterexapmle to your thesis, it has one of the lowest consumptions of animal protein and yet low life expectancy. Breast milk is animal protein, or you'd have to include dairy too. You can justify it for animal cruelty reasons, but not for health reasons.
    - 3y ago