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Just for tonga folks. I remember reading this yesterday and they calculated that the effect of tonga only make at best 0.1 degree C increase in temperature. How

Just for tonga folks. I remember reading this yesterday and they calculated that the effect of tonga only make at best 0.1 degree C increase in temperature. However what human did is 1.x degree C. That is order of magnitude difference => tonga is almost irrelevant. https://e360.yale.edu/digest/summer-2023-extreme-heat-causes https://e360.yale.edu/digest/summer-2023-extreme-heat-causes edit: previous claimed 2.x is in degree F, here we global citizens use international standard unit degree C which convert to 1.x.

IAmGraydon 3y ago
The worldwide anomaly in 2023 is about 0.9 degrees C from the mean since 1979, not 2.x. Furthermore, the 2023 anomaly from the last decade mean is about 0.3 degrees C. The 2023 anomaly from 2022 is 0.18 degrees, which is close to what they predicted the Tonga eruption would cause. One of the best ways to fight climate change is to not make up numbers out of thin air. There has to be trust for people to begin to change, and exaggerating because you want people to feel as scared as you will not help.
- akasakahakada 3y ago
  My fault, USA's fault. Misread that degree F and totally missed the degree C came later.
- magicalist 3y ago
  > One of the best ways to fight climate change is to not make up numbers out of thin air I can tell you one of the best ways to fight climate change is not to spend 0 time reading someone's source to see what's going on with their numbers and accusing them of purposefully exaggerating instead. That's just using the guise of Wikipedia expertise to be lazy and stop a conversation before it starts From their article, the "2.x" clearly comes from the fahrenheit number given. They likely meant 1.2 degrees C, measured from the preindustrial era. (and you're clearly willing to speculate based on nothing but your feelings[1], so I'm not sure you have much of a leg to stand on criticizing like that) [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37002288 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37002288
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  - ABCLAW 3y ago
    Not the poster you're replying to, but despite the fact that I think you're right, the mistake you've highlighted on is pretty reasonable given that there's people from many countries here and plenty of people default to C vs. F. No need to go on the attack to make a helpful correction. :) I'll be over here cooking an egg on the sidewalk if you need me.
sph 3y ago
Tonga, not tonga. I thought you were talking about a climate phenomenon unknown to me, when in fact you were talking about the country of Tonga.

IAmGraydon 3y ago

The worldwide anomaly in 2023 is about 0.9 degrees C from the mean since 1979, not 2.x. Furthermore, the 2023 anomaly from the last decade mean is about 0.3 degrees C. The 2023 anomaly from 2022 is 0.18 degrees, which is close to what they predicted the Tonga eruption would cause. One of the best ways to fight climate change is to not make up numbers out of thin air. There has to be trust for people to begin to change, and exaggerating because you want people to feel as scared as you will not help.

akasakahakada 3y ago
My fault, USA's fault. Misread that degree F and totally missed the degree C came later.
magicalist 3y ago
> One of the best ways to fight climate change is to not make up numbers out of thin air I can tell you one of the best ways to fight climate change is not to spend 0 time reading someone's source to see what's going on with their numbers and accusing them of purposefully exaggerating instead. That's just using the guise of Wikipedia expertise to be lazy and stop a conversation before it starts From their article, the "2.x" clearly comes from the fahrenheit number given. They likely meant 1.2 degrees C, measured from the preindustrial era. (and you're clearly willing to speculate based on nothing but your feelings[1], so I'm not sure you have much of a leg to stand on criticizing like that) [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37002288 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37002288
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- ABCLAW 3y ago
  Not the poster you're replying to, but despite the fact that I think you're right, the mistake you've highlighted on is pretty reasonable given that there's people from many countries here and plenty of people default to C vs. F. No need to go on the attack to make a helpful correction. :) I'll be over here cooking an egg on the sidewalk if you need me.

sph 3y ago

Tonga, not tonga. I thought you were talking about a climate phenomenon unknown to me, when in fact you were talking about the country of Tonga.