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> But I am sincerely curious, do you earnestly believe that, ignoring the other methods of estimating these values we have, that if we had satellite measurement
by nickdothutton 3y ago
> But I am sincerely curious, do you earnestly believe that, ignoring the other methods of estimating these values we have, that if we had satellite measurements going back 100s of years they would reveal that this level of heating is in fact quite common?
No. Where would you get that idea? I don’t doubt the sea is warming, there is data for that. I don’t doubt the sea has been warming rapidly since 1880 (or their abouts). We have data for that. I don't doubt that 2000 years ago the earth was a lot warmer than it is today. We have data for that, and not just all the “Viking village emerges from melting ice” stories.
What I lament is journalists inability to give the proper context.
- dragonwriter 3y ago> I don't doubt that 2000 years ago the earth was a lot warmer than it is today. We have data for that, and not just all the “Viking village emerges from melting ice” stories. No, 2000 years ago, or during the “medieval warm period” much later than that that people making your style of argument usually point to (and better fits the Viking villages comment), global temperatures were signifantly cooler than today (warmer than the end of the Little Ice Age in the mid-1800s, sure, but cooler than today.) We have the data for that.
- nickdothutton 3y agoIt’s all context, so why not show the graph for the last 10K years in these articles? That is all I’m asking for.
- dragonwriter 3y agoOkay, here's a piece with a chart for the last 20K years. Not sure this helps your argument. https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/4086841-were-experiencing-earths-hottest-weather-in-120000-years-and-its-just-getting-started/ https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/4086841-were-e...