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> Similarly, there's no scientific consensus on what consciousness even is. It literally does not matter. We know that it is something that exists within the b

> Similarly, there's no scientific consensus on what consciousness even is. It literally does not matter. We know that it is something that exists within the body, primarily if not exclusively the brain/nervous system. Therefor if the entire body dies you don't need any more information to know that consciousness is gone. It would require additional evidence to the contrary for one to take on the theory that consciousness somehow exists outside of the nervous system. What you're saying just flat out does not matter. What consciousness is does not matter. If you destroy someone's brain you can be assured that consciousness ends.

pclmulqdq 3y ago
> What you're saying just flat out does not matter. What consciousness is does not matter. If you destroy someone's brain you can be assured that consciousness ends. To be consistent with your first statement, the person making the claims should provide the proof. Do you have proof of this statement? The fact of the matter is that we don't know one way or the other, so anyone making claims about this will be doing so entirely on belief.
- insanitybit 3y ago
  > To be consistent with your first statement, the person making the claims should provide the proof. Do you have proof of this statement? Do I have proof that thoughts come from the brain? Uh lol excuse me if I don't rush to find sources for that claim
- angoragoats 3y ago
  By “entirely on belief” do you actually mean “entirely on faith,” that is, belief without evidence? Because otherwise your statement is nonsensical — people can and do make claims without knowing something, otherwise science wouldn’t exist. The key is that when a person makes a claim, that claim needs to be supported by evidence. The grandparent post is pointing to the mountains of evidence that we have regarding the brain, and making a claim regarding death causing a ceasing of consciousness. If you want to claim that consciousness continues after death, you’d better bring some evidence along with that claim.

pclmulqdq 3y ago

> What you're saying just flat out does not matter. What consciousness is does not matter. If you destroy someone's brain you can be assured that consciousness ends. To be consistent with your first statement, the person making the claims should provide the proof. Do you have proof of this statement? The fact of the matter is that we don't know one way or the other, so anyone making claims about this will be doing so entirely on belief.

insanitybit 3y ago
> To be consistent with your first statement, the person making the claims should provide the proof. Do you have proof of this statement? Do I have proof that thoughts come from the brain? Uh lol excuse me if I don't rush to find sources for that claim
angoragoats 3y ago
By “entirely on belief” do you actually mean “entirely on faith,” that is, belief without evidence? Because otherwise your statement is nonsensical — people can and do make claims without knowing something, otherwise science wouldn’t exist. The key is that when a person makes a claim, that claim needs to be supported by evidence. The grandparent post is pointing to the mountains of evidence that we have regarding the brain, and making a claim regarding death causing a ceasing of consciousness. If you want to claim that consciousness continues after death, you’d better bring some evidence along with that claim.