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pardon my ignorance but why are people posting nitter links every time, what is wrong with original twitter urls?
by ssijak 3y ago
pardon my ignorance but why are people posting nitter links every time, what is wrong with original twitter urls?
- lifthrasiir 3y agoTwitter nowadays is much more strict about rate limits from non-logged-in clients.
- mr_sturd 3y agoTwitter tries to force sign in/up, when you scroll down through replies.
- jansan 3y agoThis allows people without a Twitter account to read tweets and replies. Also, some people (as myself) have blocked Twitter.
- pera 3y agoTwitter is basically broken if you don't login, compare this: https://twitter.com/andrewmccalip https://twitter.com/andrewmccalip https://nitter.net/andrewmccalip https://nitter.net/andrewmccalip In Twitter the latest tweet I see is from July, in Nitter is 22 minutes ago. Additionally in Twitter I get 3 notices/popups that I need to close.
- ssijak 3y agoI was not aware of this, I'm always logged in when I visit twitter
- willis936 3y agoAnd I'm not.
- rvnx 3y agoLinks behind logins wall/paywall should be totally forbidden, Twitter, Quora, news websites, etc. I don't even get why they are indexed by Google, as this is cloaking, and forbidden by the ToS (+ gets annoying)
- mrkeen 3y agoYeah that would be nice, but pretty hard to enforce. I just read until I hit the first popup, then I back out. I'd downvote if I could.
- Cthulhu_ 3y agoGoogle gave up on checking or enforcing these things because they'd otherwise lose traffic and ad revenue.
- vinyl7 3y agoGoogle has a rule where links from google can't be paywalled. So you can see Quora posts if you enter from a Google link, but not if you go to the URL directly.
- nicce 3y agoWe should discourage the use of walled-gardens for public discussion anyway. Otherwise nothing changes ever.
- dillydogg 3y agoDo you mean closed source software? Because that would rule out Hackernews. But I agree on the principle. Maybe it's the type of discussion. I would be happier if this very exciting superconductor story was unfolding somewhere else than Twitter.
- orra 3y agoA walled garden is when users contribute the data for free, but the data is stuck. No free API access.
- dillydogg 3y agoAh, makes sense, thanks for the clarification
- owenmarshall 3y ago“Walled garden” is orthogonal to “open source” A walled garden is a site that degrades significantly or is unavailable without an account, like Twitter. Anyone can view all of HN modulo dead comments without an account. You can have a fully open source walled garden.
- dillydogg 3y agoI appreciate the clarification, thanks. This forum is open to the public at the moment. Though Hackernews could go down or take the conversation offline at any moment (this is an issue of trust more than anything, and I think HN does a good job, certainly more than Twitter)
- hjek 3y agoHackernews was released as free / open source some years back. There's a community managed fork: https://github.com/arclanguage/anarki/ https://github.com/arclanguage/anarki/
- gmerc 3y agoElon is turning his platform to pay for misinformation and rage baiting. No need to support that even passively.
- Swenrekcah 3y agoYou are not wrong. I certainly was no fan of the old twitter’s ultra woke circle jerk and bullyism but you could at least mostly ignore it and the verified accounts were actual verified people. Today the misinformation and shitposting crap is impossible to avoid, the top comments are invariably random 8 dollar people (?) that add little to the discussion and porn bots / onlyfans all over the place. On top of that it seems there might be a bias in the accounts that get selected for payouts and there is indeed quite the incentive for ragebait there.
- gmerc 3y ago70% of the payouts in the top tier (10 people) go to Elon
- h11h 3y agoIf not logged in, Twitter shows no replies, not even ones in the same thread.
- tambourine_man 3y agoHow’s Nitter still working after all these recent restrictions from Twitter?
- flotzam 3y agohttps://github.com/zedeus/nitter/pull/927 https://github.com/zedeus/nitter/pull/927
- tambourine_man 3y agoThanks, but do you have more info on this new authentication method? Is Musk suddenly OK with it? What has changed?
- nzoschke 3y agoTwitter isn’t loading at all for me at this moment. No idea if it’s me, or twitter or being logged out or logged in or what. Nitter let’s me see the content instantly.
- rsynnott 3y agoIn this brave new Twitter-y world, if the Twitter link loads at all (hardly a sure thing lately) it'll only show the tweet without any replies, unless you're logged in. Nitter will show the whole thing (it's ultimately dependent on Twitter so may also be broken, but in several recent partial Twitter outages nitter has been usable while the twitter web UI was not loading).
- timeon 3y agoI do not have account. Even if Twitter links loads (which is not always the case) - there are no comments/thread.
- userbinator 3y agoLoads very quickly and viewable without any JS.
- lopkeny12ko 3y agoBecause people on HN love to hate on Elon. "Elon bad! Twitter bad!" It's uninspired and tiring.
- giantrobot 3y agoYes. It must be that and not at all the fact that Twitter is unavailable at worst or degraded at best if you don't have an account. There's something uninspired and tiring but I don't think it's people avoiding Twitter.