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Pocket is crapware, and I don't want it in my browser, and the way they forced it upon me left a bad aftertaste, but I still don't see how it constitutes "selli

• Knee_Pain 3y ago
  The funny thing is that even though it's a Mozilla product now and even though it's somehow "integrated" in the browser, I still have to log into it separately regardless of the fact that I am already logged with with Firefox Sync
  • p-e-w 3y ago
    And that's more than six years after the acquisition. This was very poorly handled for sure.
    • AshamedCaptain 3y ago
      My wild guess is that they could not do a SSO with Pocket and Firefox Sync until they got rid of all the other authentication providers/methods that Pocket supported, a change which people like me would complain about.
      • benterix 3y ago
        > My wild guess is that they could not do a SSO with Pocket and Firefox Sync until they got rid of all the other authentication providers/methods that Pocket supported Why? Technically, it shouldn't be impossible - one shouldn't exclude the other.
        • mariusor 3y ago
          JavaScript that the Kobo can't execute for example. The browser/web view on Kobos is very very limited.
          • internetter 3y ago
            Actually as a kobo owner I've always wondered what JavaScript it can execute, what styles it can render, ect. Always seemed wildly inconsistent. Any idea?
            • mariusor 3y ago
              I suspect that very little, if any can be executed. No hard data nor first hand knowledge on that though.
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  • mariusor 3y ago
    Funny that you mentioned that, they're switching quite soon: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/pocket-firefox-account-migration https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/pocket-firefox-account-...
    • __jonas 3y ago
      I was using Pocket when they announced the start of the transition a while back and their flow to migrate bookmarks to the Firefox account just didn't work, I ended up with an empty account – maybe because I was using a different email address for my Firefox account than for my Pocket account but it made me stop using Pocket altogether, really annoying.
• anonymous_sorry 3y ago
  I was a Pocket user from before they were bought, so I wouldn't call it crapware personally. Isn't it just a way to sync a reading list across browsers, and have those pages pre-cached on a mobile device for reading when you have no connection? I'm interested in what people find objectionable about it. The strongest argument I've heard is that it's not core browser functionality, it was fine before Mozilla bought them, and therefore it's just a distraction/bloat for Firefox. Which is definitely arguable, but probably not a reason to write off the biggest independent browser.
  • spencerflem 3y ago
    As a Firefox appreciator, it's just not something I ever really wanted to use and it got a pretty prominent place in the UI when it came out. Has similar vibes to when windows added the weather forecast to the awesome bar. Imo the people making a big deal out of it are using it to justify why they're OK sticking with chrome (best case), or have a partisan political reason to hate Mozilla because of their ESG / DEI positions (ughhhhhh)
    • AshamedCaptain 3y ago
      I was a Pocket user basically since it launched (I was looking for an AvantGo replacement, so imagine that), and I still don't understand Mozilla's purchase or very heavy-handed advertisement of it.
      • dralley 3y ago
        Simple: it's profitable. One of the few profitable side ventures they have. HN loves to simultaneously criticize Mozilla for 1) being utterly financially dependent on Google 2) putting resources into anything except Firefox 3) doing anything that smells like monetizing Firefox Spoiler alert: They can't avoid 1 without doing 2 or 3. It is what it is.
  • internetter 3y ago
    I'm bothered that it's still not open source, despite promises when it was first announced (it's been 6 years!)