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That's not the competition I really meant, replace hardware vendors with OS vendors / Google. "Android certified" means it follows Google's rules, so there's n
by zb3 3y ago
That's not the competition I really meant, replace hardware vendors with OS vendors / Google.
"Android certified" means it follows Google's rules, so there's no way to compete by creating alternative security model (for example where the user has more power).
So the anticompetitive part is the attestation part, which artificially makes it impossible to run an app that'd otherwise work on the system that doesn't follow Google's rules.
- charcircuit 3y ago>so there's no way to compete by creating alternative security model (for example where the user has more power). There is a way, by creating a new attestor service that provides less guarantees than what Google Play's attestor provides.
- zb3 3y agoCompete in anticompetitiveness? Attestation is the problem itself, it makes it harder to compete, by definition excluding any newly created environment. But this isn't really my problem as I'm not a business. As an user, I'd be happy to have a secure OS with hardware attestation and app security but without Google Adware and Spyware.
- charcircuit 3y ago>Compete in anticompetitiveness? Trust isn't anticompetitive.
- zb3 3y agoIn this context it clearly is - if the server assumes the request sent by the client is always untrusted, then any capable device / app can use the service and it's possible to manufacture that device / app without permission from some company that has a dominant market position.. I acknowledge though, that this is incompatible with many practical scenarios, and CPC advertisements are one of those. It's hard for me to argue here theoretically without taking context into account, as it turns out what I'm arguing for depends on it heavily.. It could be possible for Google to make changes where while theoretically possible to compete, it's not practical, and when it gets practical, Google could make another change and so on..