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The reason why we tend to only consider 'real' desktop OS such as Windows or OSX is that those are the generalists platform where content is produced and work i

The reason why we tend to only consider 'real' desktop OS such as Windows or OSX is that those are the generalists platform where content is produced and work is being done. The others are special purpose devices

metaphor 3y ago
...never mind that the Steam Deck has an entirely capable desktop mode[1], and people are indeed using it[2]. [1] https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/671A-4453-E8D2-323C https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/671A-4453-E8D2-32... [2] https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/12sgnw7/what_do_yall_use_desktop_mode_for/ https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/12sgnw7/what_do_...
- Etherlord87 3y ago
  Can I launch Blender there and will the experience be comfortable?
  - metaphor 3y ago
    Apparently[1]. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2m-TpHtg2U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2m-TpHtg2U
  - andybak 3y ago
    Yes assuming you use an external keyboard, mouse and probably a display (unless your eyesight is a lot better than mine). You could probably get away without the mouse if you're ok with touchpad usage. But YMMV.
    - Etherlord87 3y ago
      Yes, but similarly you could connect a computer screen to a server. The idea behind separating desktop computers is, as mentioned above, that it is a particular platform a lot of us are interested in. I imagine neither me or you are typing these comments on a server or a Steam Deck.
      - metaphor 3y ago
        > I imagine neither me or you are typing these comments on a server or a Steam Deck. Stop imagining. I'm quite literally mooching around in bed posting this from Firefox on a Steam Deck in desktop mode docked to my bedroom TV. This[1] isn't your father's Oldsmobile. [1] https://store.steampowered.com/steamdeck/#SaleSection_24468 https://store.steampowered.com/steamdeck/#SaleSection_24468
        Etherlord87 3y ago
        OK but I wasn't speaking to you. It's not surprising to me, that out of maybe hundreds of people reading our conversation, there was one using Steamdeck in an unusual way. But I imagine andybak wasn't, the argument being, the chance of him doing so is very low, because that's not how most people use Steamdecks, or from another perspective, I imagine most people commenting on Hackernews do so from a laptop or a desktop, and a mobile phone on the third place.
      - andybak 3y ago
        I think you're replying to the wrong person. I was merely commenting on the viability of running Blender on a Steam Deck.
      - an-unknown 3y ago
        Yes, but if you connect a computer screen to a server, you'll notice that servers usually don't have GPUs for anything beyond "show a 1280x1024 console screen". Unlike a server, the Steam Deck is literally marketed as a device that can be used as a "desktop computer", that's the entire purpose of the optional USB-C dock.
        Etherlord87 3y ago
        This is a fair argument, Steam deck really is (much) closer to desktops than other handhelds.
      - darkwater 3y ago
        Or connect external monitor, mouse and keyboard to a laptop... So, shouldn't laptops count as "desktop computer" either?
- valeg 3y ago
  Desktop Mode on the Steam Deck is like a DVD playback on PS2 for me; an excuse to buy a portable gaming console. Pretty good one. You can actually do grown up things on it.
  - conor- 3y ago
    The Steam Deck is basically a mobile workstation that costs a fraction of what comparable hardware in a laptop would cost you.
- ghusto 3y ago
  Indeed, never mind that, because it's irrelevant. Nobody is using a Steam Deck as their daily machine. Daily Linux users are using their existing machines, and Windows and Mac users are using their PCs and Macs. Sure, some might dip into desktop mode to do a bit of browsing, or set up emulators, but nobody is saying "hey, I'll just use this as my daily driver now".
  - metaphor 3y ago
    > ...but nobody is saying "hey, I'll just use this as my daily driver now". Seriously, the hubris[1][2][3][4][5] of it all. [1] https://old.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/12sgnw7/what_do_yall_use_desktop_mode_for/jgzeala/ https://old.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/12sgnw7/what_do_... [2] https://old.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/12sgnw7/what_do_yall_use_desktop_mode_for/jgzk5ng/ https://old.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/12sgnw7/what_do_... [3] https://old.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/12sgnw7/what_do_yall_use_desktop_mode_for/jh1gu9j/ https://old.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/12sgnw7/what_do_... [4] https://old.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/12sgnw7/what_do_yall_use_desktop_mode_for/jh0gle5/ https://old.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/12sgnw7/what_do_... [5] https://old.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/12sgnw7/what_do_yall_use_desktop_mode_for/jh1y1f7/ https://old.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/12sgnw7/what_do_...
offices 3y ago
But then we don't include the Linux environment I develop code in. Or the multiple Linux computers I ssh into to develop code.
realusername 3y ago
I could make the exact same argument for OSX that you make against linux. It's a lower share platform, mainly used for special purpose (and increasingly so at each version since it's becoming less and less generalist). The purpose of system is what you are using it for.

metaphor 3y ago

...never mind that the Steam Deck has an entirely capable desktop mode[1], and people are indeed using it[2]. [1] https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/671A-4453-E8D2-323C https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/671A-4453-E8D2-32... [2] https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/12sgnw7/what_do_yall_use_desktop_mode_for/ https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/12sgnw7/what_do_...

Etherlord87 3y ago
Can I launch Blender there and will the experience be comfortable?
- metaphor 3y ago
  Apparently[1]. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2m-TpHtg2U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2m-TpHtg2U
- andybak 3y ago
  Yes assuming you use an external keyboard, mouse and probably a display (unless your eyesight is a lot better than mine). You could probably get away without the mouse if you're ok with touchpad usage. But YMMV.
  - Etherlord87 3y ago
    Yes, but similarly you could connect a computer screen to a server. The idea behind separating desktop computers is, as mentioned above, that it is a particular platform a lot of us are interested in. I imagine neither me or you are typing these comments on a server or a Steam Deck.
    - metaphor 3y ago
      > I imagine neither me or you are typing these comments on a server or a Steam Deck. Stop imagining. I'm quite literally mooching around in bed posting this from Firefox on a Steam Deck in desktop mode docked to my bedroom TV. This[1] isn't your father's Oldsmobile. [1] https://store.steampowered.com/steamdeck/#SaleSection_24468 https://store.steampowered.com/steamdeck/#SaleSection_24468
      - Etherlord87 3y ago
        OK but I wasn't speaking to you. It's not surprising to me, that out of maybe hundreds of people reading our conversation, there was one using Steamdeck in an unusual way. But I imagine andybak wasn't, the argument being, the chance of him doing so is very low, because that's not how most people use Steamdecks, or from another perspective, I imagine most people commenting on Hackernews do so from a laptop or a desktop, and a mobile phone on the third place.
    - andybak 3y ago
      I think you're replying to the wrong person. I was merely commenting on the viability of running Blender on a Steam Deck.
    - an-unknown 3y ago
      Yes, but if you connect a computer screen to a server, you'll notice that servers usually don't have GPUs for anything beyond "show a 1280x1024 console screen". Unlike a server, the Steam Deck is literally marketed as a device that can be used as a "desktop computer", that's the entire purpose of the optional USB-C dock.
      - Etherlord87 3y ago
        This is a fair argument, Steam deck really is (much) closer to desktops than other handhelds.
    - darkwater 3y ago
      Or connect external monitor, mouse and keyboard to a laptop... So, shouldn't laptops count as "desktop computer" either?
valeg 3y ago
Desktop Mode on the Steam Deck is like a DVD playback on PS2 for me; an excuse to buy a portable gaming console. Pretty good one. You can actually do grown up things on it.
- conor- 3y ago
  The Steam Deck is basically a mobile workstation that costs a fraction of what comparable hardware in a laptop would cost you.
ghusto 3y ago
Indeed, never mind that, because it's irrelevant. Nobody is using a Steam Deck as their daily machine. Daily Linux users are using their existing machines, and Windows and Mac users are using their PCs and Macs. Sure, some might dip into desktop mode to do a bit of browsing, or set up emulators, but nobody is saying "hey, I'll just use this as my daily driver now".
- metaphor 3y ago
  > ...but nobody is saying "hey, I'll just use this as my daily driver now". Seriously, the hubris[1][2][3][4][5] of it all. [1] https://old.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/12sgnw7/what_do_yall_use_desktop_mode_for/jgzeala/ https://old.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/12sgnw7/what_do_... [2] https://old.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/12sgnw7/what_do_yall_use_desktop_mode_for/jgzk5ng/ https://old.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/12sgnw7/what_do_... [3] https://old.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/12sgnw7/what_do_yall_use_desktop_mode_for/jh1gu9j/ https://old.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/12sgnw7/what_do_... [4] https://old.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/12sgnw7/what_do_yall_use_desktop_mode_for/jh0gle5/ https://old.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/12sgnw7/what_do_... [5] https://old.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/12sgnw7/what_do_yall_use_desktop_mode_for/jh1y1f7/ https://old.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/12sgnw7/what_do_...

offices 3y ago

But then we don't include the Linux environment I develop code in. Or the multiple Linux computers I ssh into to develop code.

realusername 3y ago

I could make the exact same argument for OSX that you make against linux. It's a lower share platform, mainly used for special purpose (and increasingly so at each version since it's becoming less and less generalist). The purpose of system is what you are using it for.