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So what the heck has happened with LK-99 really? (Disclaimer: I'm no physicist nor chemist, but I have co-written a report on three LK-99 papers [1] and am trac
by lifthrasiir 3y ago
So what the heck has happened with LK-99 really? (Disclaimer: I'm no physicist nor chemist, but I have co-written a report on three LK-99 papers [1] and am tracking the Twitter discussion as much as I can. I also got some help from knowledgable friends---much thanks for proof-reading.)
It turned out that LK folks were not talking about some stupid shit. Specifically they were one of the last believers of long-forgotten Russian theory of superconductivity, pioneered by Nikolay Bogolyubov. The accepted theory is entirely based on Cooper pairs, but this theory suggests that a sufficient constraint on electrons may allow superconductivity without actual Cooper pairs. This requires carefully positioned point defects in the crystalline structure, which contemporary scientists consider unlikely and such mode of SC was never formally categorized unlike type-I and type-II SC. Professor Tong-seek Chair (최동식) represented a regret about this status quo (in 90s, but still applies today) that this theory was largely forgotten without the proper assessment after the fall of USSR. It was also a very interesting twist that Iris Alexandria, "that Russian catgirl chemist", had an advisor who was a physicist-cum-biochemist studied this theory and as a result were so familiar with the theory that they were able to tell if replications follow the theoretical prediction.
Fast forward to today, students of the late Chair continued the research and produced a possible superconducting substance---LK-99---based on the Russian theory. A lot can be said about papers themselves, but it should be first noted that this substance is not a strict superconductor in the current theory. Prof. Chair once suggested that we need to trade off some (less desirable) properties of superconductors for room-temperature superconductivity, and that property seems to be isotropy. This particularly weakens the Meissner effect criterion due to the much reduced Eddy current, so there is a possibility that LK-99, even when it's real, might not be accepted as a superconductor in the traditional sense. LK folks on the other hand think they should be also considered a superconductor, but they are probably already aware of this possibility.
If we allow anisotropy in this discussion, we do have lots of such things already, most importantly carbon nanotubes. Scientists even thought about the possibility that they may function as typical superconductors [2], without any success though. So it might be appropriate to say that LK-99 is a substance that mimics them in one direction, but much more malleable. And that is an actually significant result (if true, of course) because for most uses a strict type-I superconductor is far more than sufficient, while implications of superconductivity are more achievable. We so far looked for strict superconductors only because we didn't know the effective way to trigger superconductivity otherwise; LK-99 might change that situation.
This whole discourse should make you more careful to conclude whether LK-99 is a superconductor or not, because we may well end up with a revised definition of SC as a result. If LK-99 makes superconductivity much easier to trigger it should be considered a superconductor in the macroscopic sense, authors would argue. Only the time will tell if they indeed made such a substance and it would be malleable enough to be substitutes for other superconductors, but they have a long history and arguably received unfair treatments. And they are about to fight back.
[1] https://hackmd.io/@sanxiyn/S1hejVXo3 https://hackmd.io/@sanxiyn/S1hejVXo3 (Semi-automatically translated: https://hackmd.io/DMjYGOJFRheZw5XZU8kqKg https://hackmd.io/DMjYGOJFRheZw5XZU8kqKg)
[2] For example, https://twitter.com/MichaelSFuhrer/status/1686960727544958977 https://twitter.com/MichaelSFuhrer/status/168696072754495897...
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This post is now also available as a standalone version: https://hackmd.io/@lifthrasiir/lk-99-prehistory https://hackmd.io/@lifthrasiir/lk-99-prehistory & https://twitter.com/senokay/status/1687360854315151360 https://twitter.com/senokay/status/1687360854315151360
- EvgeniyZh 3y agoForget Cooper pairs, you say it doesn't satisfy London equations?
- purnanair 3y agoIrony of this being replicated when 2 major powers of erstwhile USSR are at war. This Alchemy could be the catalyst for a united humanity.
- bunniez 3y agoIt's Chwe/Choi, not Chair.
- lifthrasiir 3y ago"Chair" is a preferred transliteration for this particular person. It is a very uncommon ("Choi" is the single preferred name), but still plausible one.
- lyre-lyre 3y agoThere is a tendency to call any scientific work that came out of anywhere in the former USSR as "Russian". Nikolay Bogolyubov is probably at least as "Ukrainian" as "Russian": he grew up and went to university in Kyiv, became a member of the Academy of Sciences of the Ukrainian SSR, and now has a physics institute named after him in Kyiv (and another in Moscow) -> https://www.encyclopedia.com/science/dictionaries-thesauruses-pictures-and-press-releases/bogolubov-nikolai-nikolaevich https://www.encyclopedia.com/science/dictionaries-thesauruse... and https://www.kipt.kharkov.ua/itp/akhiezer/en/recollections/bogolyubov/index.html https://www.kipt.kharkov.ua/itp/akhiezer/en/recollections/bo... https://en.ucoin.net/coin/ukraine-2-hryvni-2009/?tid=8957 https://en.ucoin.net/coin/ukraine-2-hryvni-2009/?tid=8957 This happens to lots of famous scientists/engineers (Sergey Korolev, Vladimir Vernadsky, ...). We can do a bit better.
- sevasnape 3y agoIt's not a "tendency", it's truth. All people you mention are Russians because they were living in USSR, speaking Russian language, worked in Russia and for them Ukraine was an administrative region. Not to mention the fact that the country that denies Soviet legacy and achievement does not have moral right to attribute anything that has been done during the period to people and regime which despises their own past, legacy, sacrifices, relatives, and denies everything that has been done. So ridiculous.