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Well I never had an iPhone and from Android I only had Chinese stuff coze it's cheap. Mostly Xiaomi but also weird stuff like Lumigon, which for $100 had an inf

Well I never had an iPhone and from Android I only had Chinese stuff coze it's cheap. Mostly Xiaomi but also weird stuff like Lumigon, which for $100 had an infrared camera and (at the time) an unbelievable 128 Gb of storage. I also never had viruses or malware or what else because I only install official app versions (Teams / WhatsApp / Skype messengers, Netflix / Amazon / HBO / Disney streaming platforms, Google / Microsoft / Custom Bank authenticators, Chrome / Firefox browsers etc). My kid though ... my God. He installs random games from PlayStore, if I wouldn't have seen I wouldn't have believed it. Every corner of the phone was infested with ads and popups and crap, had to do a factory reset to clean it as even after uninstalling the games the crapyware continued). Overall if you stay out of games and stick to tried and tested official apps, you're good. Well, apart from Chinese phone bugs, which are unavoidable given the price tag. Like at least I got used to Xiaomi's bugs but my kid just wanted so much a Huawei Honor Magic5 Lite coze it looks nice and that's all that matters. Crashed once right when I was setting up my Google account, second attempt succeeded. Then started pre-installed YouTube and took 5 crashes before the 6th attempt finally succeeded and the application started. For the same money he could have gotten a Redmi Note 12 Pro from Xiaomi, with slightly better hardware specs (but not the slick curved glass look) and as it seems, leaps and bounds better tested software.

DANmode 3y ago
> Every corner of the phone was infested with ads and popups and crap, had to do a factory reset to clean it as even after uninstalling the games the crapyware continued). RIP the other devices on your network.
pajko 3y ago
Xiaomi phones themselves are malware. My EU Redmi 8 was running tcpdump in the background 24/7, capturing the first 50 bytes of every packet and sending the logs to some chinese server twice per day. One would say 50 bytes is not much and most of the traffic is encrypted (HTTPS, etc...) but the IP addresses are still in there, the DNS requests and replies are not encrypted, and having the first 50 bytes of IP packets might be enough to capture an unencrypted IMAP, SMTP or POP3 login. It's the part of the "recover lost/stolen phone" thing, but it's an overkill for that purpose. It's not documented what they are doing with the data, and this clearly violates the GDPR. Btw. never had this feature enabled. Flashed a custom ROM the next day after my discovery.

DANmode 3y ago

> Every corner of the phone was infested with ads and popups and crap, had to do a factory reset to clean it as even after uninstalling the games the crapyware continued). RIP the other devices on your network.

pajko 3y ago

Xiaomi phones themselves are malware. My EU Redmi 8 was running tcpdump in the background 24/7, capturing the first 50 bytes of every packet and sending the logs to some chinese server twice per day. One would say 50 bytes is not much and most of the traffic is encrypted (HTTPS, etc...) but the IP addresses are still in there, the DNS requests and replies are not encrypted, and having the first 50 bytes of IP packets might be enough to capture an unencrypted IMAP, SMTP or POP3 login. It's the part of the "recover lost/stolen phone" thing, but it's an overkill for that purpose. It's not documented what they are doing with the data, and this clearly violates the GDPR. Btw. never had this feature enabled. Flashed a custom ROM the next day after my discovery.