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That sounds like exactly what the person you’re replying to did. What are you trying to say?

by _dujt 3y ago

kristofferg 3y ago
Reaching level 60 on hardcore gives me the impression that he put quite a few hours into the game. Sounds unpleasant if you find the game a “snorefest”. :)
- _dujt 3y ago
  Well, you’re wrong. Level 60 is incredibly fast to reach with how exponential experience scaling works. I can tell you’re not that knowledgeable about what’s going on with D4.
  - kristofferg 3y ago
    You got me. :) I know nothing of D4. Lvl. 60 does sound high and ex. >20 hours of playing is a lot to me. I.e. to me it spounds horrible if someone plays a game for more than 20 hours while not enjoying the experience. :)
    - Jare 3y ago
      Diablo 4 has a lot of value, and the core moment-to-moment gameplay feel remains excellent. I loved the campaign, and the openworld in which it happens. And THAT 10-minute long cutscene, I'm a lifelong cutscene skipper but that thing was incredible. That drops you around level 45-50, from which you jump to the next level of difficulty and start experiencing new areas of play (Helltides) and some new challenges. By 60 you're done with those, and then the tedium of high level systems sets in. So those 30-40 hours are great, and (to me) very much worth the $70. But the expectation from a Diablo game is to be evergreen. I kept coming back to Diablo 2 for 4 years, then Diablo 3 for 10 years. This type of games, today, are built with microtransactions so players who keep playing for a long time have stuff they may want to purchase and increase revenue. Replay and longevity should be the core pillars, and the developers had already applied (and invented) the patterns for making such games. Diablo 4's systems and design does not encourage that sort of attachment and replay. I played the campaign to 71, then the season to 64, and I'm off until the game changes substantially. Diablo 2 & 3 changed radically years after they launched so I'm hopeful, but it's surprising that D4 seems to have ignored the lessons from the evolution of 2 & 3. Something oddly similar can be seen with the Borderlands series leading into the latest entry, Wonderlands. Amazing campaign, but the replayability and longevity of previous titles is gone. Stark reminder that developing creative works is hard even if you are a master of it.

That sounds like exactly what the person you’re replying to did. What are you trying to say?

by _dujt 3y ago

That sounds like exactly what the person you’re replying to did. What are you trying to say?

Reaching level 60 on hardcore gives me the impression that he put quite a few hours into the game. Sounds unpleasant if you find the game a “snorefest”. :)

_dujt 3y ago
Well, you’re wrong. Level 60 is incredibly fast to reach with how exponential experience scaling works. I can tell you’re not that knowledgeable about what’s going on with D4.
- kristofferg 3y ago
  You got me. :) I know nothing of D4. Lvl. 60 does sound high and ex. >20 hours of playing is a lot to me. I.e. to me it spounds horrible if someone plays a game for more than 20 hours while not enjoying the experience. :)
  - Jare 3y ago
    Diablo 4 has a lot of value, and the core moment-to-moment gameplay feel remains excellent. I loved the campaign, and the openworld in which it happens. And THAT 10-minute long cutscene, I'm a lifelong cutscene skipper but that thing was incredible. That drops you around level 45-50, from which you jump to the next level of difficulty and start experiencing new areas of play (Helltides) and some new challenges. By 60 you're done with those, and then the tedium of high level systems sets in. So those 30-40 hours are great, and (to me) very much worth the $70. But the expectation from a Diablo game is to be evergreen. I kept coming back to Diablo 2 for 4 years, then Diablo 3 for 10 years. This type of games, today, are built with microtransactions so players who keep playing for a long time have stuff they may want to purchase and increase revenue. Replay and longevity should be the core pillars, and the developers had already applied (and invented) the patterns for making such games. Diablo 4's systems and design does not encourage that sort of attachment and replay. I played the campaign to 71, then the season to 64, and I'm off until the game changes substantially. Diablo 2 & 3 changed radically years after they launched so I'm hopeful, but it's surprising that D4 seems to have ignored the lessons from the evolution of 2 & 3. Something oddly similar can be seen with the Borderlands series leading into the latest entry, Wonderlands. Amazing campaign, but the replayability and longevity of previous titles is gone. Stark reminder that developing creative works is hard even if you are a master of it.