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you're joking, but there's a whole genre of "adversarial fashion"[0][1] dedicated to making clothing that spams these sort of public data recognition services.
by culi 3y ago
you're joking, but there's a whole genre of "adversarial fashion"[0][1] dedicated to making clothing that spams these sort of public data recognition services. Hoodies with license plates, face masks with weird facial features, etc. Often optimized against actual neural networks too
[0] https://adversarialfashion.com/ https://adversarialfashion.com/
[1] https://www.capable.design/ https://www.capable.design/
- syx 3y agoThat’s really cool, I wonder effective these designs really are! This reminds me of a font that came out 10 years ago ZXX [1] that was presumably designed to hide from OCRs. [1] https://www.businessinsider.com/zxx-fonts-that-google-cant-read-2013-9 https://www.businessinsider.com/zxx-fonts-that-google-cant-r...
- JohnBooty 3y agoThis is awesome, and thanks for posting this. I had no idea.
- pests 3y agoGait detection renders any of this obsolute sadly.
- berniedurfee 3y agoSomething something silly walks
- squarefoot 3y agoYou beat me to it:) Context: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCLp7zodUiI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCLp7zodUiI
- downWidOutaFite 3y agoLuckily my gait is not in an adtech company's database and sold to the government, like my face probably is.
- kibwen 3y agoIf you're willing to go to the lengths of adversarial fashion, you're probably also willing to walk around with a stone in your shoe, or in high heels.
- gonzo41 3y agoAnd cost at scale renders gait detection detection and most face detection at scale useless. The sexy movie detection methods all suck. Go with what works. Just id people via their phones with a dirtbox.
- xattt 3y agoA third pant leg sown on one side with a rock on the bottom will (probably) throw off some algos.
- blackrobot 3y agoThis is a good idea! https://youtu.be/BNhriA2xq9E https://youtu.be/BNhriA2xq9E
- froggit 3y agoAnd set off hella red flags for everything else (probably wouldn't be too much of a problem if you just say "it's to foil gait detection" when you get interrogated about your third leg. people tend to be cool with all kinds of weird shit as long as it's for a reason). Could maybe work if gait detection is the only adversary in your life for sure.
- paradox460 3y agoPut different insoles in your shoe every day
- rasz 3y agogait analysis is up there with bite marks(https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/apr/28/forensics-bite-mark-junk-science-charles-mccrory-chris-fabricant https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/apr/28/forensics-bi... )/jeans wear marks(https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1917222117 https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1917222117) and other FBI post hoc ergo propter hoc fraud. If it worked this would be a solved case https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices/washingtondc/news/press-releases/fbi-washington-field-office-releases-video-and-additional-information-regarding-the-pipe-bomb-investigation-090821 https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices/washingtondc/ne...
- culi 3y agosnake oil
- jliptzin 3y agoI wonder how effective that is considering storage costs are very cheap and an AI can easily filter out images that are either “car” or “not car”
- john_the_writer 3y agoNot hotdog?
- steve_adams_86 3y agoThis made me realize that recent openAI tech is able to cut through misleading or confusing images, even finding the potentially inferred humour or absurdity layered in the images. I wonder how we’ll find a way to trick that kind of technology as well.
- rapnie 3y agoThis is really cool. Though the Capable Design site with its animations is a bit adversarial to me browsing it.