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big tech is trying to erase this concept from the consumer mind. Assuming someone tried to do everything legally (not pirating) when was the last time anyone "o

by ulamel 3y ago

big tech is trying to erase this concept from the consumer mind. Assuming someone tried to do everything legally (not pirating) when was the last time anyone "owned" anything. Music, Movies, TV shows, Software, you don't own any of it you are simply paying for server space.

liendolucas 3y ago
You couldn't have stated that more clearly. Is a disgrace. We're basically headed to rent features of all kinds. It's terrible.
- tmpX7dMeXU 3y ago
  It’s a point repeated practically infinite times daily on this website and any other tech community. It’s not a revelation deserving of accolades. It’s the nerd equivalent of “lower taxes!” at a political rally. This entire back and forth where all participants are clearly on the same side and are clearly regurgitating all the talking points of their shared ideology isn’t a conversation, it’s people patting eachother on the back.
wpietri 3y ago
Amazingly, this corporate desire goes back more than a hundred years. Edison cylinders had a "shrink-wrap" license trying to control what people did with the recordings they bought: https://www.flickr.com/photos/59414209@N00/5072909557/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/59414209@N00/5072909557/ That was later outlawed with the "first-sale doctrine": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-sale_doctrine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-sale_doctrine I would say that it seems like it's time for some new legislation that supports consumer freedom. But given the state of American politics, I can only hope that Europe will do some pioneering work on this.
userbinator 3y ago
Not just big tech; there's a reason why "you will own nothing and be happy" is a thing.
- jeffreyq 3y ago
  Interesting quote. I just came across the exact quote reading the latest of "The Upheaval" by N.S. Lyon
  - userbinator 3y ago
    It originally came from the WEF: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25068820 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25068820

by ulamel 3y ago

liendolucas 3y ago

You couldn't have stated that more clearly. Is a disgrace. We're basically headed to rent features of all kinds. It's terrible.

tmpX7dMeXU 3y ago
It’s a point repeated practically infinite times daily on this website and any other tech community. It’s not a revelation deserving of accolades. It’s the nerd equivalent of “lower taxes!” at a political rally. This entire back and forth where all participants are clearly on the same side and are clearly regurgitating all the talking points of their shared ideology isn’t a conversation, it’s people patting eachother on the back.

wpietri 3y ago

Amazingly, this corporate desire goes back more than a hundred years. Edison cylinders had a "shrink-wrap" license trying to control what people did with the recordings they bought: https://www.flickr.com/photos/59414209@N00/5072909557/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/59414209@N00/5072909557/ That was later outlawed with the "first-sale doctrine": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-sale_doctrine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-sale_doctrine I would say that it seems like it's time for some new legislation that supports consumer freedom. But given the state of American politics, I can only hope that Europe will do some pioneering work on this.

userbinator 3y ago

Not just big tech; there's a reason why "you will own nothing and be happy" is a thing.

jeffreyq 3y ago
Interesting quote. I just came across the exact quote reading the latest of "The Upheaval" by N.S. Lyon
- userbinator 3y ago
  It originally came from the WEF: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25068820 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25068820