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> A chrultrabook is a modified Chromebook designed to run Windows, Linux, or even macOS by utilizing MrChromebox coreboot firmware Why should I trust 'MrChrome

> A chrultrabook is a modified Chromebook designed to run Windows, Linux, or even macOS by utilizing MrChromebox coreboot firmware Why should I trust 'MrChromebox' firmware? I trust Google more than some rando side project on GitHub.

traverseda 3y ago
Well it's coreboot, you can compile it yourself if that's something you're worried about.
carlosjobim 3y ago
I don't think the project is aimed at you personally as an individual. It seems to be aimed at whoever think it's neat.
- jprd 3y ago
  I donated monthly to MrChromebox for more than a bit. Before COVID hit, I used his firmware and ~20 1st Gen Asus/HP Chromeboxen (upgraded RAM to 16G and 128/256GB SSD replacements, i7-4600U Haswell, cases stripped off and heatsinks added to the new SSDs) to create a physical K8s lab. I no longer need to run that kind of lab, but I still use those a few of those nodes for running services at home. Proxmox/Docker/K8s/Win Server/etc, a bit more power draw, but x86-64 and since they "expire", you'll see a periodic flood of devices to places like eBay.
jamesnorden 3y ago
You're free to read the code and compile it yourself, I don't understand this question.
- fabrice_d 3y ago
  To trust the code you need to understand it, or trust someone else that understand it. I would not claim I can do that without spending a lot of time since I'm unfamiliar with the coreboot code base in the first place. Saying "you can just recompile yourself" is as useful as "you can cook deadly mushrooms yourself" instead of getting food poisoning from a 3rd party.
  - zacmps 3y ago
    You say that like you or anyone else on the planet understands and trusts all the software they have running on their (phone/laptop/desktop). That ship sailed a long time ago.
    - pacifika 3y ago
      I think the idea is that all the people on the planet collectively can understand whether to trust all the software. The rest is comms.
  - spookie 3y ago
    Transparency breeds legitimacy. Look, being able to look at the source of truth is the best you can hope for. Moreover, the project has been around for some time. If that's not enough, then fair, at the end of the day the choice is yours.
- yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago
  How would a person go from the sources posted on github to the binaries that get flashed? I don't see anything in https://github.com/MrChromebox https://github.com/MrChromebox that seems to be actual build scripts, without which the numerous other repos are less than useful
  - theodric 3y ago
    Switch on developer mode on a supported device, pop a shell, and run 'cd; curl mrchromebox.tech/firmware-util.sh --output firmware-util.sh; sudo bash firmware-util.sh' For more detail, I point you toward the fine documentation
    - yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago
      That's how you flash the precompiled binaries. I want to know how you make those binaries.
      - MrChromebox 3y ago
        * ensure you have coreboot prereqs installed per doc.coreboot.org * git clone https://github.com/MrChromebox/coreboot.git https://github.com/MrChromebox/coreboot.git * cd coreboot * git submodule update --init --checkout --recursive * make crossgcc-i386 * ./build-uefi.sh <name of board to build>
lizknope 3y ago
You don't have to but I used MrChromebox's firmware on a C710, C720, and 2 Asus Chromeboxes. The project has been around about 10 years. I think it if was not trustworthy we probably would have heard something by now. I remember using the SeaBIOS firmware from them around 2014. Since then I've updated all machines to the UEFI firmware and now they can even boot Windows. I run the latest Fedora distribution on all of them and they work fine.
MrChromebox 3y ago
nearly a decade of continuous contributions to upstream coreboot, and featured on their own documentation: https://doc.coreboot.org/distributions.html#mrchromebox https://doc.coreboot.org/distributions.html#mrchromebox

traverseda 3y ago

Well it's coreboot, you can compile it yourself if that's something you're worried about.

carlosjobim 3y ago

I don't think the project is aimed at you personally as an individual. It seems to be aimed at whoever think it's neat.

jprd 3y ago
I donated monthly to MrChromebox for more than a bit. Before COVID hit, I used his firmware and ~20 1st Gen Asus/HP Chromeboxen (upgraded RAM to 16G and 128/256GB SSD replacements, i7-4600U Haswell, cases stripped off and heatsinks added to the new SSDs) to create a physical K8s lab. I no longer need to run that kind of lab, but I still use those a few of those nodes for running services at home. Proxmox/Docker/K8s/Win Server/etc, a bit more power draw, but x86-64 and since they "expire", you'll see a periodic flood of devices to places like eBay.

jamesnorden 3y ago

You're free to read the code and compile it yourself, I don't understand this question.

fabrice_d 3y ago
To trust the code you need to understand it, or trust someone else that understand it. I would not claim I can do that without spending a lot of time since I'm unfamiliar with the coreboot code base in the first place. Saying "you can just recompile yourself" is as useful as "you can cook deadly mushrooms yourself" instead of getting food poisoning from a 3rd party.
- zacmps 3y ago
  You say that like you or anyone else on the planet understands and trusts all the software they have running on their (phone/laptop/desktop). That ship sailed a long time ago.
  - pacifika 3y ago
    I think the idea is that all the people on the planet collectively can understand whether to trust all the software. The rest is comms.
- spookie 3y ago
  Transparency breeds legitimacy. Look, being able to look at the source of truth is the best you can hope for. Moreover, the project has been around for some time. If that's not enough, then fair, at the end of the day the choice is yours.
yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago
How would a person go from the sources posted on github to the binaries that get flashed? I don't see anything in https://github.com/MrChromebox https://github.com/MrChromebox that seems to be actual build scripts, without which the numerous other repos are less than useful
- theodric 3y ago
  Switch on developer mode on a supported device, pop a shell, and run 'cd; curl mrchromebox.tech/firmware-util.sh --output firmware-util.sh; sudo bash firmware-util.sh' For more detail, I point you toward the fine documentation
  - yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago
    That's how you flash the precompiled binaries. I want to know how you make those binaries.
    - MrChromebox 3y ago
      * ensure you have coreboot prereqs installed per doc.coreboot.org * git clone https://github.com/MrChromebox/coreboot.git https://github.com/MrChromebox/coreboot.git * cd coreboot * git submodule update --init --checkout --recursive * make crossgcc-i386 * ./build-uefi.sh <name of board to build>

lizknope 3y ago

You don't have to but I used MrChromebox's firmware on a C710, C720, and 2 Asus Chromeboxes. The project has been around about 10 years. I think it if was not trustworthy we probably would have heard something by now. I remember using the SeaBIOS firmware from them around 2014. Since then I've updated all machines to the UEFI firmware and now they can even boot Windows. I run the latest Fedora distribution on all of them and they work fine.

MrChromebox 3y ago

nearly a decade of continuous contributions to upstream coreboot, and featured on their own documentation: https://doc.coreboot.org/distributions.html#mrchromebox https://doc.coreboot.org/distributions.html#mrchromebox