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But animal ag is far from sustainable, unfortunately. Climate change, resource depletion, deforestation, loss of biodiversity, pollution, overpopulation, soil
by myshpa 3y ago
But animal ag is far from sustainable, unfortunately.
Climate change, resource depletion, deforestation, loss of biodiversity, pollution, overpopulation, soil erosion, and overfishing are all symptoms of ecological overshoot.
Agriculture is a key culprit in most of those symptoms, and animal ag accounts for 80% of all agriculture.
Animal ag is directly responsible for majority of deforestation, is a major driver of biodiversity loss, has twice the greenhouse gas emissions than plant based foods, uses much more fresh water, pollutes the waters and causes dead zones in oceans, overfishing threatens us with empty oceans in 2040's, destroys our soils, etc. etc.. The reforestation potential of animal ag lands is so huge, that we could store our entire 1.5C carbon budget in those lands.
We can free up the area a size of Africa (cca 9 Indias) by switching to plant based diets, and use it for reforesting/rewilding.
If the world adopted a plant-based diet we would reduce global agricultural land use from 4 to 1 billion hectares - https://ourworldindata.org/land-use-diets https://ourworldindata.org/land-use-diets
Reforestation potential of pastures (and abolishment of animal ag) would allow us to store the entire 1.5C carbon budget by rewilding/afforesting previously forested pastures. It would also stop biodiversity loss, which is a very serious problem in this day and age. - https://www.nature.com/articles/s41893-020-00603-4 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41893-020-00603-4
Rapid global phaseout of animal agriculture (and reforesting) has the potential to stabilize greenhouse gas levels for 30 years and offset 68 percent of CO2 emissions this century - https://journals.plos.org/climate/article?id=10.1371/journal.pclm.0000010 https://journals.plos.org/climate/article?id=10.1371/journal...
Beef, soy for animal feed and palm oil are responsible for 60+% of tropical deforestation - https://ourworldindata.org/drivers-of-deforestation https://ourworldindata.org/drivers-of-deforestation
Our global food system is the primary driver of biodiversity loss - https://www.unep.org/news-and-stories/press-release/our-global-food-system-primary-driver-biodiversity-loss https://www.unep.org/news-and-stories/press-release/our-glob...
The way we eat could lead to habitat loss for 17,000 species by 2050 - https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/22287498/meat-wildlife-biodiversity-species-plantbased https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/22287498/meat-wildlife-bi...
Livestock and climate change: what if the key actors in climate change are... cows, pigs, and chickens? - ttps://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Livestock-and-climate-change%3A-what-if-the-key-in-Goodland-Anhang/6704c7a0777c82357704d82b9ae8007c1197cb07?p2df
The global production of food is responsible for a third of all planet-heating gases emitted by human activity, with the use of animals for meat causing twice the pollution of producing plant-based foods - https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/sep/13/meat-greenhouses-gases-food-production-study https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/sep/13/meat-gre...
Reducing food’s environmental impacts through producers and consumers - https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aaq0216 https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aaq0216
Mass Extinctions and Their Relationship With Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide Concentration: Implications for Earth's Future - https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/2022EF003336 https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/2022EF00...
- bubsie 3y agoThose sources are cool and all but I like cheese /s
- myshpa 3y agoVegans have cheese. Salty and fatty, melts. You should try it. There is no magic ingredient in cow (dog, giraffe, lion, bat, dolphin) milk that we couldn't get from plants instead. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcN7SGGoCNI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcN7SGGoCNI https://www.vegancheese.co/discover https://www.vegancheese.co/discover (1700+ cheeses from all over the world)
- dao- 3y ago> Salty and fatty, Almost never protein though. You want good protein for a healthy diet. Of course you can get it through other ingredients, but most of the time, today anyway, you do lose something when just replacing cheese with vegan cheese, unfortunately. > There is no magic ingredient in cow (dog, giraffe, lion, bat, dolphin) milk that we couldn't get from plants instead. Agreed.
- myshpa 3y ago> Almost never protein though True. > You want good protein for a healthy diet. Of course you can get it through other ingredients, but most of the time, today anyway, you do lose something when just replacing cheese with vegan cheese, unfortunately. That seems like a strange argument to me. Why insist on obtaining the protein specifically from cheese? Not that it would be hard to add some protein powder to it; why has the protein come from the cheese? If it tastes good, it doesn't matter as long as you get enough protein from somewhere. We already get 63% of protein and 82% of calories from plants. It's not hard to go all the way.
- NoZebra120vClip 3y agoTo call other things "cheese" that aren't cheese is torturing the very definition of the word, much like "milk", which, of course, as a precursor to cheese, has been traditionally understood, inconveniently for you, as excretion from mammary glands. A lot of of cheesemakers have also traditionally depended upon rennet, a product of animal stomachs, so in the effort to replace it as a coagulant, the definition of "rennet" has itself been tortured to expand as much as possible until vegans are happy with fake, highly-processed, chemically-treated foods. I was reading the bag of my Chipotle burrito the other night, and it listed all 51 ingredients they use in their restaurant (even water is listed in here), and my eyes alighted on "gypsum". I nearly spit out my steak and pinto beans when I discovered that there's basically drywall in Chipotle's food. It turns out that gypsum (calcium sulfate dihydrate) is a coagulant for soy products, and so if a restaurant doesn't use soy, and doesn't produce fake, highly-processed, chemically-treated vegan foods, then it doesn't need to use drywall.