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> What made IE the IE everyone hates was its departure from standards(?) Google is of course much smarter than Microsoft. Google avoids this by declaring every

> What made IE the IE everyone hates was its departure from standards(?) Google is of course much smarter than Microsoft. Google avoids this by declaring everything Chrome does to be a standard. And then far from being criticised from departing from the standard, their competitors get criticised for not implementing whatever thing Chrome came up with yesterday.

WorldMaker 3y ago
That was what made IE dangerous: everything Microsoft did in IE was the standard for a bunch of years. They built things like XHR and the concept of "AJAX". The CSS model of IE was eventually enshrined as box-sizing: border-box, because designers loved it and it was easier to work with. For many years in IE4/5/6 every browser was criticized for not supporting IE standards. That's how IE6 got a huge marketshare and then kept that marketshare for far longer than it ever should have. That's why those of us that remember browser history worry that Chrome is the new IE. It's defining the standards. It has crazy momentum behind it. People are (victim) blaming Safari and Firefox for not "keeping up with standards", even though the standards they aren't keeping up with are often things Google decided to do without finishing the standards process first. That's what IE did. People remember the years after the interregnum of the web slowly cleaning up that mess. Of standards finally getting passed and IE being the one incompatible. They don't remember as well that IE was the problem child so much because it defined standards for years and that's what cemented its huge marketshare and inability to go away quietly when it came time to clean things up. Cleaning things up was so hard because it had defined so many standards. Worrying about "Chrome is the new IE" now is trying to prevent that mess from happening a second time.

WorldMaker 3y ago

That was what made IE dangerous: everything Microsoft did in IE was the standard for a bunch of years. They built things like XHR and the concept of "AJAX". The CSS model of IE was eventually enshrined as box-sizing: border-box, because designers loved it and it was easier to work with. For many years in IE4/5/6 every browser was criticized for not supporting IE standards. That's how IE6 got a huge marketshare and then kept that marketshare for far longer than it ever should have. That's why those of us that remember browser history worry that Chrome is the new IE. It's defining the standards. It has crazy momentum behind it. People are (victim) blaming Safari and Firefox for not "keeping up with standards", even though the standards they aren't keeping up with are often things Google decided to do without finishing the standards process first. That's what IE did. People remember the years after the interregnum of the web slowly cleaning up that mess. Of standards finally getting passed and IE being the one incompatible. They don't remember as well that IE was the problem child so much because it defined standards for years and that's what cemented its huge marketshare and inability to go away quietly when it came time to clean things up. Cleaning things up was so hard because it had defined so many standards. Worrying about "Chrome is the new IE" now is trying to prevent that mess from happening a second time.