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I think a lot of people are forgetting that Windows 95 had to have this animation. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UxwAlqCCmk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4U

I think a lot of people are forgetting that Windows 95 had to have this animation. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UxwAlqCCmk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UxwAlqCCmk And still there were a lot of people who eschewed the Start menu and used Program Manager for a long time. One can expect similar cues for the new OS.

freehunter 15y ago
I've long argued the correlation between DOS and Windows vs Windows 7 and Windows 8. It seems no one cares. No, this time will be different, this time people can't change their computing habits.
- bunderbunder 15y ago
  Changing your computing habits may not bee too hard; the problem is changing your computer hardware. Like in TFA, it's that Windows 8 has been so focused on providing a compelling interface for touchscreen users that it fails to provide a decent interface for keyboard&mouse users. The problem runs so deep that Win8 takes away much of what we've come up with in the course of decades' worth of experimentation with how to use a keyboard and mouse to interact with computers, and instead asks kb&m users to emulate touchscreen idioms such as swipe gestures. The problem isn't insurmountable - the fixes are actually quite small, as the blog that hosts TFA points out pretty often. In fact, I'd like to point out that there wasn't quite so much of this hubbub over Windows 8 developer preview. This is because developer preview had a decent (not necessarily great in Metro, but decent overall) interaction model for users of normal computers, which Microsoft subsequently removed for no apparent reason.
  - freehunter 15y ago
    I would say it continues to build upon what Windows 7 (and even Windows 95) was doing. Instead of a desktop full of shortcuts and a start menu full of shortcuts, you now have a full screen start menu to replace all that. Like the desktop, the start screen scales to your screen resolution, allowing more icons when the resolution is higher. It lets you scroll around all your shortcuts and allows you to see relevant information about them without even opening them (replacing the sidebar, which was the cause of quite a few "Vista is slow!" complaints). You can use the Windows key to simultaneously perform the action of "open the start menu" and "show the desktop". I'm not sure I understand the point about mouse gestures. Mouse gestures have been around for a lot longer than Windows 8 (see, Opera browser). If you're specifically referring to the unlock screen, just press a key on your keyboard. This will likely be included in a tutorial for the release. If you mean mouse gestures to perform shortcut actions, Windows 8 has a pretty extensive keyboard shortcut list for power users. http://www.windows8news.com/2012/03/12/microsoft-release-windows-8-keyboard-shortcut-list/ http://www.windows8news.com/2012/03/12/microsoft-release-win...

freehunter 15y ago

I've long argued the correlation between DOS and Windows vs Windows 7 and Windows 8. It seems no one cares. No, this time will be different, this time people can't change their computing habits.

bunderbunder 15y ago
Changing your computing habits may not bee too hard; the problem is changing your computer hardware. Like in TFA, it's that Windows 8 has been so focused on providing a compelling interface for touchscreen users that it fails to provide a decent interface for keyboard&mouse users. The problem runs so deep that Win8 takes away much of what we've come up with in the course of decades' worth of experimentation with how to use a keyboard and mouse to interact with computers, and instead asks kb&m users to emulate touchscreen idioms such as swipe gestures. The problem isn't insurmountable - the fixes are actually quite small, as the blog that hosts TFA points out pretty often. In fact, I'd like to point out that there wasn't quite so much of this hubbub over Windows 8 developer preview. This is because developer preview had a decent (not necessarily great in Metro, but decent overall) interaction model for users of normal computers, which Microsoft subsequently removed for no apparent reason.
- freehunter 15y ago
  I would say it continues to build upon what Windows 7 (and even Windows 95) was doing. Instead of a desktop full of shortcuts and a start menu full of shortcuts, you now have a full screen start menu to replace all that. Like the desktop, the start screen scales to your screen resolution, allowing more icons when the resolution is higher. It lets you scroll around all your shortcuts and allows you to see relevant information about them without even opening them (replacing the sidebar, which was the cause of quite a few "Vista is slow!" complaints). You can use the Windows key to simultaneously perform the action of "open the start menu" and "show the desktop". I'm not sure I understand the point about mouse gestures. Mouse gestures have been around for a lot longer than Windows 8 (see, Opera browser). If you're specifically referring to the unlock screen, just press a key on your keyboard. This will likely be included in a tutorial for the release. If you mean mouse gestures to perform shortcut actions, Windows 8 has a pretty extensive keyboard shortcut list for power users. http://www.windows8news.com/2012/03/12/microsoft-release-windows-8-keyboard-shortcut-list/ http://www.windows8news.com/2012/03/12/microsoft-release-win...