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Have you actually used the W8 CP, or read the website? The desktop is still there; and that taskbar is there as well, but it's hard to discover (most of the UI

Have you actually used the W8 CP, or read the website? The desktop is still there; and that taskbar is there as well, but it's hard to discover (most of the UI elements are hidden by default, and it's not even obvious they exist). Most of the changes proposed are not UI overhauls, nor Metro killers, but more of a repositioning of various elements when using the system without a touch device. In other words, you seem to be doing quite the same thing you accuse others of, but in reverse: "you're either 110% happy with the perfect UI in the new release, or MS haters." The UI has potential to be useful, but it currently feels half-baked (and there isn't time to finish such major changes between a CP and RTM versions); perhaps W9 will finish and polish it?

freehunter 15y ago
The desktop is there as a backwards compatibility crutch. It's not discoverable because Microsoft doesn't want you to discover it. XP Mode in Windows 7 isn't discoverable either. I take exception to the "either a lover or a hater" comment. I have plenty of criticisms of Windows 8, like I had many with Windows 7. But if there's one thing you learn about trying to talk some sense into the Internet, it's to not waffle on your position. Look at how quickly people picked up on "one single consumer reportedly didn't like the Windows 8 beta, therefore Windows 8 is a complete failure!" bandwagon. Now imagine the responses any reasonable debate would garner if someone said "I think Windows 8 will be good, but one thing I don't like is..." Yeah, the very next response would be "see, even Microsoft lovers hate Windows 8!"
- Piskvorrr 15y ago
  Well, let's get that out of the way, then: "see, even Microsoft lovers hate Windows 8!" ;o) Anyway: you do have a point with waffle-resistance; but "talking sense into the Internet" sounds a bit futile...especially when the Internet is trying to do the same, with senses that are incompatible to yours. The video is indeed somewhat unfortunate (note that I've actually watched it much later than this discussion started) in that it's easy to latch on, instead of the - somewhat positive - rest of that site.

freehunter 15y ago

The desktop is there as a backwards compatibility crutch. It's not discoverable because Microsoft doesn't want you to discover it. XP Mode in Windows 7 isn't discoverable either. I take exception to the "either a lover or a hater" comment. I have plenty of criticisms of Windows 8, like I had many with Windows 7. But if there's one thing you learn about trying to talk some sense into the Internet, it's to not waffle on your position. Look at how quickly people picked up on "one single consumer reportedly didn't like the Windows 8 beta, therefore Windows 8 is a complete failure!" bandwagon. Now imagine the responses any reasonable debate would garner if someone said "I think Windows 8 will be good, but one thing I don't like is..." Yeah, the very next response would be "see, even Microsoft lovers hate Windows 8!"

Piskvorrr 15y ago
Well, let's get that out of the way, then: "see, even Microsoft lovers hate Windows 8!" ;o) Anyway: you do have a point with waffle-resistance; but "talking sense into the Internet" sounds a bit futile...especially when the Internet is trying to do the same, with senses that are incompatible to yours. The video is indeed somewhat unfortunate (note that I've actually watched it much later than this discussion started) in that it's easy to latch on, instead of the - somewhat positive - rest of that site.