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> so that I could learn the web tech stack from the ground up. It was all to avoid this fate. I'd like to think I've succeeded. I'm not sure if that's intentio

> so that I could learn the web tech stack from the ground up. It was all to avoid this fate. I'd like to think I've succeeded. I'm not sure if that's intentional humour or not.

sph 3y ago
Out of the frying pan, into the cow manure.
hliyan 3y ago
There is a massive advantage in being able to see the web tech stack for what it is and wielding it without over-engineering or fanaticism, while your competitors are spending 2-3x on monstrosities that essentially does the same thing, but slower.
- ticviking 3y ago
  The day a professor made me implement a simple http server was the day I achieved code enlightenment. At that level of abstraction it’s all just strings
  - tambourine_man 3y ago
    That was the web, yeah. Absurdly simple. Now all new protocols are binary and require reading several academic papers instead of a single RFC.
  - bob1029 3y ago
    > At that level of abstraction it’s all just strings Exactly... I worry about the masses learning of this and gaining literacy over the landed gentry. PHP/CGI basically had it solved. I emulate PHP in .NET6 today using verbatim and interpolated string operations.
  - a_subsystem 3y ago
    Relevant: https://twitter.com/serbantanasa/status/1582019078533046272 https://twitter.com/serbantanasa/status/1582019078533046272
- bob1029 3y ago
  I was originally concerned about your parent comment regarding your new foray into web dev (that C++ path sounds amazing), but this comment has put my soul at ease. If you walk into web dev with aggressive principles and a willingness to be controversial, you can get a lot of shit done and it will feel great. Watching others struggle under the various JS framework circuses has almost an opulent/aristocratic vibe in 2023.
- DrBazza 3y ago
  Fair point. The web stack is the one thing I actively avoid doing anything significant with for exactly the reasons you've just described.

> so that I could learn the web tech stack from the ground up. It was all to avoid this fate. I'd like to think I've succeeded. I'm not sure if that's intentional humour or not.

sph 3y ago

Out of the frying pan, into the cow manure.

hliyan 3y ago

There is a massive advantage in being able to see the web tech stack for what it is and wielding it without over-engineering or fanaticism, while your competitors are spending 2-3x on monstrosities that essentially does the same thing, but slower.

ticviking 3y ago
The day a professor made me implement a simple http server was the day I achieved code enlightenment. At that level of abstraction it’s all just strings
- tambourine_man 3y ago
  That was the web, yeah. Absurdly simple. Now all new protocols are binary and require reading several academic papers instead of a single RFC.
- bob1029 3y ago
  > At that level of abstraction it’s all just strings Exactly... I worry about the masses learning of this and gaining literacy over the landed gentry. PHP/CGI basically had it solved. I emulate PHP in .NET6 today using verbatim and interpolated string operations.
- a_subsystem 3y ago
  Relevant: https://twitter.com/serbantanasa/status/1582019078533046272 https://twitter.com/serbantanasa/status/1582019078533046272
bob1029 3y ago
I was originally concerned about your parent comment regarding your new foray into web dev (that C++ path sounds amazing), but this comment has put my soul at ease. If you walk into web dev with aggressive principles and a willingness to be controversial, you can get a lot of shit done and it will feel great. Watching others struggle under the various JS framework circuses has almost an opulent/aristocratic vibe in 2023.
DrBazza 3y ago
Fair point. The web stack is the one thing I actively avoid doing anything significant with for exactly the reasons you've just described.