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An entire article and they didn't mention the most important point: All of the "hacking" done by Sabu and his cronies were small potatoes. If you're going to d

by fein 15y ago

An entire article and they didn't mention the most important point: All of the "hacking" done by Sabu and his cronies were small potatoes. If you're going to delve into the world of blackhattery, then don't tell everyone like you're the newage digital messiah. How hard is this to understand? Who in their right mind would create an online identity to incriminate themselves? I'm of the opinion/ belief that those who do actual malicious hacking aren't a load of egotistical attention whores, hence why it never makes the news.

aGHz 15y ago
This. While reading the article, I couldn't help but imagine the legions of extremely bright Russian, Bulgarian, Romanian, Hungarian, etc hackers, most likely orders of magnitude more sophisticated than Sabu, looking at the LulzSec shenanigans with disdain and comparing our western hacking scene with Hollywood and Entertainment Tonight. That being said, LulzSec et. al. were more about social activism than about accomplished hacking. For a mission like that you really need some mainstream appeal, and for that purpose the newage digital messiah fit the bill.
- methoddk 15y ago
  It fit the bill but at what cost? This fool still walks free for cooperating and selling out his peers? I can't believe this guy actually has a twitter account with 30k followers. Since when has hacking become about being in the public eye? I get the activism of it all, but they went about it horribly from the beginning.
  - Karunamon 15y ago
    >This fool still walks free for cooperating and selling out his peers? I'm very, very torn on this one. On one hand, I applauded a number of the Lulzsec hacks, and it's kind of hard not to cheer for someone "sticking it to the man". On the other hand, Sabu is a very distasteful sort of fellow, and IIRC Dante had the lowest circle of hell reserved for traitors and backstabbers. He isn't walking free, though. If memory serves, he's still going to be a convicted felon who spent a couple of years in club fed.
trotsky 15y ago
I was far from a fan of the lulzsec or antisec activities, but it's impossible to claim that the HB Gary hack didn't have a major impact on the security world. It's tempting for those in the business to dismiss hacks if they're not done with cutting edge techniques, but what really matters is the result not if a sql injection was used.
Tyrannosaurs 15y ago
Turns out that he's not the digital messiah, he's a very naughty boy.
victork2 15y ago
Totally agree. I mean just look at the whole Anonymous thing: "Hackers" want to feel that they are badasses, feared, they want their internet fame. Professional Blackhat? They just want (your) money! To make a reference to a movie everytime these stories remind me of Scarface. The real and quiet blackhats are the silent columbian drug dealers. LulzSec/ Anonymous are the scarface of hacking. They succeed for a time, they are noisy and they use merchandise shipped by bigger crooks than they are. And guess who get killed in the end or put in jail while the other are piling money?

by fein 15y ago

aGHz 15y ago

This. While reading the article, I couldn't help but imagine the legions of extremely bright Russian, Bulgarian, Romanian, Hungarian, etc hackers, most likely orders of magnitude more sophisticated than Sabu, looking at the LulzSec shenanigans with disdain and comparing our western hacking scene with Hollywood and Entertainment Tonight. That being said, LulzSec et. al. were more about social activism than about accomplished hacking. For a mission like that you really need some mainstream appeal, and for that purpose the newage digital messiah fit the bill.

methoddk 15y ago
It fit the bill but at what cost? This fool still walks free for cooperating and selling out his peers? I can't believe this guy actually has a twitter account with 30k followers. Since when has hacking become about being in the public eye? I get the activism of it all, but they went about it horribly from the beginning.
- Karunamon 15y ago
  >This fool still walks free for cooperating and selling out his peers? I'm very, very torn on this one. On one hand, I applauded a number of the Lulzsec hacks, and it's kind of hard not to cheer for someone "sticking it to the man". On the other hand, Sabu is a very distasteful sort of fellow, and IIRC Dante had the lowest circle of hell reserved for traitors and backstabbers. He isn't walking free, though. If memory serves, he's still going to be a convicted felon who spent a couple of years in club fed.

trotsky 15y ago

I was far from a fan of the lulzsec or antisec activities, but it's impossible to claim that the HB Gary hack didn't have a major impact on the security world. It's tempting for those in the business to dismiss hacks if they're not done with cutting edge techniques, but what really matters is the result not if a sql injection was used.

Tyrannosaurs 15y ago

Turns out that he's not the digital messiah, he's a very naughty boy.

victork2 15y ago

Totally agree. I mean just look at the whole Anonymous thing: "Hackers" want to feel that they are badasses, feared, they want their internet fame. Professional Blackhat? They just want (your) money! To make a reference to a movie everytime these stories remind me of Scarface. The real and quiet blackhats are the silent columbian drug dealers. LulzSec/ Anonymous are the scarface of hacking. They succeed for a time, they are noisy and they use merchandise shipped by bigger crooks than they are. And guess who get killed in the end or put in jail while the other are piling money?