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1. Go to your preferred app. 2. Choose settings. 3. Set as default. You never once have to touch the apple apps. That setting is in the stock apps because th

by quitit 3y ago

1. Go to your preferred app. 2. Choose settings. 3. Set as default. You never once have to touch the apple apps. That setting is in the stock apps because these are set to the default on a blank install and by putting it here, you now have the option to change it when the app launches. HN tries too hard to invent drama.

eviks 3y ago
1. Opened Vivaldi email 2. Opened settings 3. Didn't see the option I saw it when I touched the Mail.app, though So tell me again why complaining about the lack of the most basic thing: being able to configure your system via a dedicated system configuration app is "invented drama" Your explanation is also irrelevant as it doesn't address the issue why it's NOT in the system settings app, not why it's also in some other app
- detourdog 3y ago
  Sounds like Vivaldi should work on their menu options.
  - Liquid_Fire 3y ago
    Or maybe Apple should add it to System Settings so that each and every app doesn't need to reinvent the wheel?
    - detourdog 3y ago
      This is such a nitpick as to be laughable. What is the big deal with whatever email application having a checkbox to make it default.
      - quitit 3y ago
        The whole thread is pedantic HN nonsense. They want to paint it like it's anti competitive or some dark pattern as if the consumer's choice to buy an apple computer was not influenced by the software that it comes with. For a lot of users changing email settings from the email app's settings makes the most sense, going to the system settings to change email isn't their first thought. In a similar thought, a mac user goes to the Finder to change default apps for file associations. So the thinking here by some users is that this should also be moved to the system settings? While I can see both sides of having it in one place or another. I also see the value of not putting the same setting in many different places. I also think there is value in simplifying the system preferences and that it's pedantic to argue that it must be one place or another.
    - detourdog 3y ago
      That is one thought, another thought is that when one configures the email application one should just check a box to make it default. I think the current method makes more sense. I have no objection to Apple also implementing in system settings but who cares.

by quitit 3y ago

eviks 3y ago

1. Opened Vivaldi email 2. Opened settings 3. Didn't see the option I saw it when I touched the Mail.app, though So tell me again why complaining about the lack of the most basic thing: being able to configure your system via a dedicated system configuration app is "invented drama" Your explanation is also irrelevant as it doesn't address the issue why it's NOT in the system settings app, not why it's also in some other app

detourdog 3y ago
Sounds like Vivaldi should work on their menu options.
- Liquid_Fire 3y ago
  Or maybe Apple should add it to System Settings so that each and every app doesn't need to reinvent the wheel?
  - detourdog 3y ago
    This is such a nitpick as to be laughable. What is the big deal with whatever email application having a checkbox to make it default.
    - quitit 3y ago
      The whole thread is pedantic HN nonsense. They want to paint it like it's anti competitive or some dark pattern as if the consumer's choice to buy an apple computer was not influenced by the software that it comes with. For a lot of users changing email settings from the email app's settings makes the most sense, going to the system settings to change email isn't their first thought. In a similar thought, a mac user goes to the Finder to change default apps for file associations. So the thinking here by some users is that this should also be moved to the system settings? While I can see both sides of having it in one place or another. I also see the value of not putting the same setting in many different places. I also think there is value in simplifying the system preferences and that it's pedantic to argue that it must be one place or another.
  - detourdog 3y ago
    That is one thought, another thought is that when one configures the email application one should just check a box to make it default. I think the current method makes more sense. I have no objection to Apple also implementing in system settings but who cares.