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To me this exemplifies the Mac way of doing things - to me if I want to change any setting that is system oriented or interacts with the system should go into S

To me this exemplifies the Mac way of doing things - to me if I want to change any setting that is system oriented or interacts with the system should go into System Preferences. Anything that tweaks how the app itself behaves should go under the Preferences of the app. But once you get used to the Apple way then you tend to not question these things as much.

pxc 3y ago
> if I want to change any setting that is system oriented or interacts with the system should go into System Preferences Right. It is not the place of some random 'app' to administer my fucking system. I never, ever want my web browser or text editor or any other app to nag me with some intrusive pop-up about making it the default (in general or for some specific file type). From my perspective, the whole 'the app should handle it' attitude is another perverse adaptation to Apple neglecting to build competent power user features (in this case an administrative interface for default application associations), like the slew of apps in the ecosystem trying desperately to hack in decent window management, audio stream management, middle click via trackpad (lmfao), key remapping, etc., etc. The whole culture of the OS and its userbase just takes it for granted that huge classes of functionality will and even should be implemented by various 'apps' leveraging otherwise invisible, sometimes undocumented, and always breakage-prone OS behaviors.
- CRConrad 3y ago
  > It is not the place of some random 'app' to administer my fucking system. I never, ever want my web browser or text editor or any other app to nag me with some intrusive pop-up about making it the default (in general or for some specific file type). Somewhat related: It's not the place of some random web site to administer my fucking system. I never, ever want any web site (looking at you, Google!) to nag me with some intrusive pop-up about installing their freaking browser just because I'm looking at their site.
  - FireBeyond 3y ago
    Does that apply to macOS wanting to make sure you want to use Chrome after you install it, and, 'just checking', not Safari?
    - pxc 3y ago
      I'd say that's a distinct gripe, but an equally valid one!
    - CRConrad 3y ago
      Applies, but feels like it's more closely related to the parent of my comment than to my comment itself.
CRConrad 3y ago
> But once you get used to the Apple way then you tend to not question these things as much. Alternative spelling: Once you get brainwashed by the Reality Distortion Field you tend to not question Apple. How to recognise when people have been: When they deny not only that they've been brainwashed, but the existence of the RDF.
- detourdog 3y ago
  Somebody definitely seems brainwashed around here. Most people want the MacOS to act whatever else they know. Then they claim the Mac can't do this x cause y. At least 75% the person is simply mistaken. Then you the people that insist there couldn't possibly be any logic to this thing makes know sense to me. They are just completely wrong.

pxc 3y ago

> if I want to change any setting that is system oriented or interacts with the system should go into System Preferences Right. It is not the place of some random 'app' to administer my fucking system. I never, ever want my web browser or text editor or any other app to nag me with some intrusive pop-up about making it the default (in general or for some specific file type). From my perspective, the whole 'the app should handle it' attitude is another perverse adaptation to Apple neglecting to build competent power user features (in this case an administrative interface for default application associations), like the slew of apps in the ecosystem trying desperately to hack in decent window management, audio stream management, middle click via trackpad (lmfao), key remapping, etc., etc. The whole culture of the OS and its userbase just takes it for granted that huge classes of functionality will and even should be implemented by various 'apps' leveraging otherwise invisible, sometimes undocumented, and always breakage-prone OS behaviors.

CRConrad 3y ago
> It is not the place of some random 'app' to administer my fucking system. I never, ever want my web browser or text editor or any other app to nag me with some intrusive pop-up about making it the default (in general or for some specific file type). Somewhat related: It's not the place of some random web site to administer my fucking system. I never, ever want any web site (looking at you, Google!) to nag me with some intrusive pop-up about installing their freaking browser just because I'm looking at their site.
- FireBeyond 3y ago
  Does that apply to macOS wanting to make sure you want to use Chrome after you install it, and, 'just checking', not Safari?
  - pxc 3y ago
    I'd say that's a distinct gripe, but an equally valid one!
  - CRConrad 3y ago
    Applies, but feels like it's more closely related to the parent of my comment than to my comment itself.

CRConrad 3y ago

> But once you get used to the Apple way then you tend to not question these things as much. Alternative spelling: Once you get brainwashed by the Reality Distortion Field you tend to not question Apple. How to recognise when people have been: When they deny not only that they've been brainwashed, but the existence of the RDF.

detourdog 3y ago
Somebody definitely seems brainwashed around here. Most people want the MacOS to act whatever else they know. Then they claim the Mac can't do this x cause y. At least 75% the person is simply mistaken. Then you the people that insist there couldn't possibly be any logic to this thing makes know sense to me. They are just completely wrong.