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What's the point of executing people other then to be violent? It's barbaric what those countries do becasue someone wants to use a substance. Singapore has s
by tayo42 3y ago
What's the point of executing people other then to be violent?
It's barbaric what those countries do becasue someone wants to use a substance.
Singapore has so much different then the US that you can't compare. Maybe they don't use drugs culturally? It's a small country, with tons of social safety nets for it's citizens. People might not hit the same lows. It's also a city on an island. You need to isolate the variables before saying executing is effective
- kortilla 3y ago>What's the point of executing people other then to be violent? It’s a deterrent. Whether it’s life in prison or an execution, it drastically reduces the expected value of being a drug dealer.
- satellite2 3y agoAs GP said, there is zero evidence that deterrent works. On the other hand, there is plenty of evidence that being rich and a good social support system have a preventive effect. Two things that are well represented in Singapore.
- gettodachoppa 3y agoLee Kwan Yew himself said that capital punishment for drug trafficking is necessary to keep his country clean, and I'll take his word over yours, or some agenda-driven soft-science academic working on studies who's never been around criminals. Don't @ me with "appeal to authority", I admit it gladly. I don't worship at the altar of scientism (EDIT: scientism doesn't seem to be the correct word, it's not negative like I thought. I'm criticizing the "I Hecking Love Science (TM)" mentality that treat crappy non-reproducible soft-science studies as something that somehow has more value than common sense.) You want to convince me, create better societies that are safer to live in than Singapore.
- worrycue 3y agoMaybe I misremembered, I recall LKY saying, to paraphrase, “Don’t tell me harsh punishment don’t work. I have seen it work very well during the WWII Japanese occupation”.
- creato 3y agoYour post would be a lot better without the first sentence. You’re questioning the effectiveness, not the point. The point is clear, and your suggestion of the point is an obvious straw man even to people who agree with you.
- oneshtein 3y agoUS drug overdose deaths breaks records. All those people died because someone produced the dug then sold it to victims for profit. «Kill Americans for joy and profit» doesn't look bad enough in your eyes?
- gmerc 3y agoThey can’t do it again and it scares the crap out of people. That said, being an island with 2 airports, 2 bridges and 2 ferry terminals is the primary reason it works