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So you believe we should kill all the brewers, bartenders, liquor store clerks etc? Alcohol has no medically redeeming values and is the cause of a lot of deat

So you believe we should kill all the brewers, bartenders, liquor store clerks etc? Alcohol has no medically redeeming values and is the cause of a lot of death and suffering. This will keep us safe, right?

pfannkuchen 3y ago
Alcohol isn’t currently causing a problem on the scale of the problems that certain other drugs are causing. I think that is fairly obvious?
- Prickle 3y ago
  Last I checked, annually , more people die from tobacco use and alcohol poisoning than illicit drug use. ~480,000 deaths annually from tobacco ~140,000 deaths annually from alcohol ~109,680 deaths in 2022 from drug overdose *Data is exclusively taken from the USA
- extragood 3y ago
  Alcohol deaths worldwide overshadow drug deaths by a large margin. Opiods are the biggest share at 70% WHO has 3 million deaths linked to alcohol [1] vs .5 million for narcotics. [1] https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/alcohol https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/alcohol [2] https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/opioid-overdose https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/opioid-over...
- latchkey 3y ago
  It is amazing to me how you could say this. That's how socialized alcohol is to people. It isn't even deaths as a metric... it is everything around it too. Sure there are a lot of news articles about people bent over on fenty right now and that is terrible, but that pales in contrast to all of alcohol abuse related issues. Let's also remember that a lot of people (watch the interviews of people on YT) start using fenty because they want something stronger/cheaper than what they were previously using, like alcohol. https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/alcohols-effects-health/alcohol-topics/alcohol-facts-and-statistics/alcohol-related-emergencies-and-deaths-united-states https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/alcohols-effects-health/alcohol-to...
- pstuart 3y ago
  140,000 people a year dead from alcohol means nothing to you? And it's not just the deaths, it's destroyed so many lives in so many ways, from car accidents to domestic violence. It's a dangerous drug and to pretend otherwise is disingenuous at best. https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/alcohols-effects-health/alcohol-topics/alcohol-facts-and-statistics/alcohol-related-emergencies-and-deaths-united-states#:~:text=It%20is%20estimated%20that%20more,physical%20inactivity%2C%20and%20illegal%20drugs https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/alcohols-effects-health/alcohol-to.... And a paper showing that alcohol is more dangerous than heroin: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21665157/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21665157/
D_Alex 3y ago
>So you believe we should kill all the brewers, bartenders, liquor store clerks etc? Yes of course. Why do you even ask, I thought this much was totally clear from my original post.

pfannkuchen 3y ago

Alcohol isn’t currently causing a problem on the scale of the problems that certain other drugs are causing. I think that is fairly obvious?

Prickle 3y ago
Last I checked, annually , more people die from tobacco use and alcohol poisoning than illicit drug use. ~480,000 deaths annually from tobacco ~140,000 deaths annually from alcohol ~109,680 deaths in 2022 from drug overdose *Data is exclusively taken from the USA
extragood 3y ago
Alcohol deaths worldwide overshadow drug deaths by a large margin. Opiods are the biggest share at 70% WHO has 3 million deaths linked to alcohol [1] vs .5 million for narcotics. [1] https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/alcohol https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/alcohol [2] https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/opioid-overdose https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/opioid-over...
latchkey 3y ago
It is amazing to me how you could say this. That's how socialized alcohol is to people. It isn't even deaths as a metric... it is everything around it too. Sure there are a lot of news articles about people bent over on fenty right now and that is terrible, but that pales in contrast to all of alcohol abuse related issues. Let's also remember that a lot of people (watch the interviews of people on YT) start using fenty because they want something stronger/cheaper than what they were previously using, like alcohol. https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/alcohols-effects-health/alcohol-topics/alcohol-facts-and-statistics/alcohol-related-emergencies-and-deaths-united-states https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/alcohols-effects-health/alcohol-to...
pstuart 3y ago
140,000 people a year dead from alcohol means nothing to you? And it's not just the deaths, it's destroyed so many lives in so many ways, from car accidents to domestic violence. It's a dangerous drug and to pretend otherwise is disingenuous at best. https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/alcohols-effects-health/alcohol-topics/alcohol-facts-and-statistics/alcohol-related-emergencies-and-deaths-united-states#:~:text=It%20is%20estimated%20that%20more,physical%20inactivity%2C%20and%20illegal%20drugs https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/alcohols-effects-health/alcohol-to.... And a paper showing that alcohol is more dangerous than heroin: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21665157/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21665157/

D_Alex 3y ago

>So you believe we should kill all the brewers, bartenders, liquor store clerks etc? Yes of course. Why do you even ask, I thought this much was totally clear from my original post.