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As someone who never really used Twitter before the LLM stuff started happening, and still I only pick it up once or twice per week, I've personally felt that I

As someone who never really used Twitter before the LLM stuff started happening, and still I only pick it up once or twice per week, I've personally felt that I've had a better experience on there recently than I did a while ago. I appreciate the efforts Musk has made towards pushing back against the censorship of language that it seems like everyone nowadays wants to enforce, regardless of their background. I think he'd be doing better financially if he would shut up for 5 minutes, but hey, it's his money, not mine, haha. Although, I would like to see humans make it Mars within my life. So c'mon, Elon, just keep your trap closed for a bit, let Linda do the talking for you, and continue to be the egotistic, megalomaniac manager in the same vein as Steve Jobs, and just make really good products, please.

eviks 3y ago
How can the censor-in-chief be pushing back against censorship?
- jazzyjackson 3y ago
  it's only censorship if the people I like are being silenced, otherwise it's just moderation
sdsd 3y ago
People are downvoting you because you're saying "Twitter okay" and the hivemind says "Twitter bad". Fwiw I had the same experience, I never cared about Twitter (had tried it a few times and just lost interest) and I've immensely enjoyed Twitter recently. So many weird people just putting ideas out there. TPOT and e/acc in particular are full of smart people I can't find elsewhere (I don't live in SF or even the US, so these aren't people I could access in my community). I also agree that the real source of the drama seems to be Musk. People are annoyed at him so they have to say "Twitter bad" as a matter of principle.
- Timon3 3y ago
  People are down voting them for this bit: > I appreciate the efforts Musk has made towards pushing back against the censorship of language that it seems like everyone nowadays wants to enforce, regardless of their background. Musks censorship is well-documented. There are only two ways one could sincerely make this argument: - by fully ignoring Musks censorship - by accepting it as good Neither option makes the commenter seem honest or well-meaning, hence the downvotes.
  - JSavageOne 3y ago
    Who has Musk censored? Censoring mentions of Mastodon was indeed a terrible move, but he did backtrack on that. Was there anything else?
    - Timon3 3y ago
      There is a bunch more. Elonjet, that one blogging page, Threads... Hell, he declared "cisgender" to be a forbidden slur!
      - simondotau 3y ago
        Musk didn't declare it a forbidden slur. What he declared forbidden was "repeated, targeted harassment" and that cis will be considered a slur by Twitter in the context of assessing whether something is "repeated, targeted harassment". Personally I think that's fair enough. There are countless words which can be slurs when used to harass. If a transgender woman asks to not be referred to as a man, I would argue that use of male pronouns can constitute a slur. It can be a slur even if it's technically correct that they are still a biologically male person. Calling an openly gay man "a homo" is widely accepted to be a serious slur, even though it's a term derived from Latin and the factual imputation conveyed by the word isn't in dispute. It doesn't matter if a person happens to fit the technical definition of "cisgender" because slur-ness is never about technical correctness, or whether a word has Latin roots. It's about the reasons why the word was chosen and the purpose it is serving in the conversation.
        3y ago
akaru 3y ago
You must be a GOP fan, then. Because it has turned into a disgusting cesspool of disinformation, bigotry, and hate. Just like 4chan, the_donald, and voat before it. But dare you speak against Mr. Free Speech Absolutist himself, you’ll get the hammer.
arrakeen 3y ago
> As someone who never really used Twitter before the LLM stuff started happening, and still I only pick it up once or twice per week, I've personally felt that I've had a better experience on there recently than I did a while ago. so with the release of ChatGPT on 2022-11-30 being the watershed moment for LLMs, you're saying that you've been using twitter for less than a year? if that's the case, i got news for you buddy--you've only ever known the shitshow twitter

eviks 3y ago

How can the censor-in-chief be pushing back against censorship?

jazzyjackson 3y ago
it's only censorship if the people I like are being silenced, otherwise it's just moderation

sdsd 3y ago

People are downvoting you because you're saying "Twitter okay" and the hivemind says "Twitter bad". Fwiw I had the same experience, I never cared about Twitter (had tried it a few times and just lost interest) and I've immensely enjoyed Twitter recently. So many weird people just putting ideas out there. TPOT and e/acc in particular are full of smart people I can't find elsewhere (I don't live in SF or even the US, so these aren't people I could access in my community). I also agree that the real source of the drama seems to be Musk. People are annoyed at him so they have to say "Twitter bad" as a matter of principle.

Timon3 3y ago
People are down voting them for this bit: > I appreciate the efforts Musk has made towards pushing back against the censorship of language that it seems like everyone nowadays wants to enforce, regardless of their background. Musks censorship is well-documented. There are only two ways one could sincerely make this argument: - by fully ignoring Musks censorship - by accepting it as good Neither option makes the commenter seem honest or well-meaning, hence the downvotes.
- JSavageOne 3y ago
  Who has Musk censored? Censoring mentions of Mastodon was indeed a terrible move, but he did backtrack on that. Was there anything else?
  - Timon3 3y ago
    There is a bunch more. Elonjet, that one blogging page, Threads... Hell, he declared "cisgender" to be a forbidden slur!
    - simondotau 3y ago
      Musk didn't declare it a forbidden slur. What he declared forbidden was "repeated, targeted harassment" and that cis will be considered a slur by Twitter in the context of assessing whether something is "repeated, targeted harassment". Personally I think that's fair enough. There are countless words which can be slurs when used to harass. If a transgender woman asks to not be referred to as a man, I would argue that use of male pronouns can constitute a slur. It can be a slur even if it's technically correct that they are still a biologically male person. Calling an openly gay man "a homo" is widely accepted to be a serious slur, even though it's a term derived from Latin and the factual imputation conveyed by the word isn't in dispute. It doesn't matter if a person happens to fit the technical definition of "cisgender" because slur-ness is never about technical correctness, or whether a word has Latin roots. It's about the reasons why the word was chosen and the purpose it is serving in the conversation.
      - 3y ago

akaru 3y ago

You must be a GOP fan, then. Because it has turned into a disgusting cesspool of disinformation, bigotry, and hate. Just like 4chan, the_donald, and voat before it. But dare you speak against Mr. Free Speech Absolutist himself, you’ll get the hammer.

arrakeen 3y ago

> As someone who never really used Twitter before the LLM stuff started happening, and still I only pick it up once or twice per week, I've personally felt that I've had a better experience on there recently than I did a while ago. so with the release of ChatGPT on 2022-11-30 being the watershed moment for LLMs, you're saying that you've been using twitter for less than a year? if that's the case, i got news for you buddy--you've only ever known the shitshow twitter