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This is an uncharitable take which presents both a strawman and a false dichotomy. The reasons for avoiding Microsoft are many. And often philosophical in natur

This is an uncharitable take which presents both a strawman and a false dichotomy. The reasons for avoiding Microsoft are many. And often philosophical in nature, whether with respect to business practices or the sanity of one's work environment.

lost_tourist 3y ago
I would call them rewards rather than reasons
jiggawatts 3y ago
You can choose to avoid Microsoft, that's perfectly fine. I do however find it amusing to see the very existence of Microsoft casually skipped over, as if they weren't one of the world's biggest corporations. Imagine if someone listed "modern UNIX-like operating systems" and the list went something like: NetBSD, OpenBSD, AIX, OpenSolaris, and then went through dozens like that into ever more obscure things nobody has ever heard of, but skipped Linux like it didn't even exist. Just some Finnish guy's hobby project, not really worth discussing, right? It gets to the point where it's absurd. As a real example, someone made a printable SVG/PDF poster of "big data" and "data science" companies and technologies. They were listing dinky little startups that had a total value smaller than the annual cost of an individual Azure storage blob container that I deleted to save money. That was an "oops" by someone that the customer didn't even notice.
- soulofmischief 3y ago
  You're still strawmanning by lumping together a huge amount of people with different motivations under one homogeneous group. > It gets to the point where it's absurd. All of the examples you provide don't paint some cohesive picture, they come across as random, haphazard strokes with no form or meaning. Your original comment attempted to answer a question by ridiculing an entire demographic of people who care much more about human rights than you realize.
  - jiggawatts 3y ago
    Okay, let me paint you a picture: I will never go as a tourist to certain countries. I don't want to support their economies with my dollars because I think they're morally bankrupt places. I also value my own safety, freedom, and the like. Think Russia, Saudi Arabia, North Korea, etc... That doesn't mean I'll just ignore their existence or forget to list them as places in the world. It's a uniquely Linux-fanboy thing to just pretend Microsoft doesn't exist, or that it's not even worth including in a list. "Superpowers: Russia, China, and India." "Hello!? United States!" "The united what?"
    - soulofmischief 3y ago
      No, your comment is still coming across as close-minded and judgemental, and you are likely engaging in sharpshooter's fallacy as well by examining a few cherry-picked examples to support this weird crusade you seem to have against "Linux-fanboys". Overall, this take feels immature and insensitive to the ideals that drive Linux users.

lost_tourist 3y ago

I would call them rewards rather than reasons

jiggawatts 3y ago

You can choose to avoid Microsoft, that's perfectly fine. I do however find it amusing to see the very existence of Microsoft casually skipped over, as if they weren't one of the world's biggest corporations. Imagine if someone listed "modern UNIX-like operating systems" and the list went something like: NetBSD, OpenBSD, AIX, OpenSolaris, and then went through dozens like that into ever more obscure things nobody has ever heard of, but skipped Linux like it didn't even exist. Just some Finnish guy's hobby project, not really worth discussing, right? It gets to the point where it's absurd. As a real example, someone made a printable SVG/PDF poster of "big data" and "data science" companies and technologies. They were listing dinky little startups that had a total value smaller than the annual cost of an individual Azure storage blob container that I deleted to save money. That was an "oops" by someone that the customer didn't even notice.

soulofmischief 3y ago
You're still strawmanning by lumping together a huge amount of people with different motivations under one homogeneous group. > It gets to the point where it's absurd. All of the examples you provide don't paint some cohesive picture, they come across as random, haphazard strokes with no form or meaning. Your original comment attempted to answer a question by ridiculing an entire demographic of people who care much more about human rights than you realize.
- jiggawatts 3y ago
  Okay, let me paint you a picture: I will never go as a tourist to certain countries. I don't want to support their economies with my dollars because I think they're morally bankrupt places. I also value my own safety, freedom, and the like. Think Russia, Saudi Arabia, North Korea, etc... That doesn't mean I'll just ignore their existence or forget to list them as places in the world. It's a uniquely Linux-fanboy thing to just pretend Microsoft doesn't exist, or that it's not even worth including in a list. "Superpowers: Russia, China, and India." "Hello!? United States!" "The united what?"
  - soulofmischief 3y ago
    No, your comment is still coming across as close-minded and judgemental, and you are likely engaging in sharpshooter's fallacy as well by examining a few cherry-picked examples to support this weird crusade you seem to have against "Linux-fanboys". Overall, this take feels immature and insensitive to the ideals that drive Linux users.