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My point is Apple is taking their typical approach which is more Tesla - start at the high price point option to define a space and then work your way down. I

My point is Apple is taking their typical approach which is more Tesla - start at the high price point option to define a space and then work your way down. I don't think we're going to stumble into good immersive AR/VR by cobbling together OEM parts bin specials to hit a $400 price point day 1. It seems obvious that the displays & optics need to be as good or better than top of the line phone/computer displays, not worse. So I don't see how a remotely immersive experience can happen even at the $1k price point.

chaostheory 3y ago
> So I don't see how a remotely immersive experience can happen even at the $1k price point. I strongly feel that you need to actually try modern VR for more than a few minutes. Is it perfect? Far from it. There are many problems, specifically that VR’s main form factors are too intimidating for most adults to even try. Is it immersive? Yes, a lot of apps and games are I’m just glad Tim forced Apple to finally join the market. Otherwise, there would be VR winter for about a decade due to the mass public perception of VR and the fact that the most engaged VR users can’t even drive yet.
simondotau 3y ago
It's also likely to mirror Apple's approach with all-new product families, where a first generation product is released as soon as they have the core technology working but before it's at an "Apple" level of maturity and/or have a true grip on the product's raison d'être. Subsequent generations reveal the first generation to be the experimental beta/market test product it really was all along. This was definitely the case with the iPhone, iPad and the Watch. It's arguably also true with the first generation MacBook Air. (This definitely doesn't apply to the M1 transition as this wasn't a new product family. It was a fork of an extremely mature product, combined into another extremely mature product, resulting in a product revision which was very cool but did absolutely nothing new.)

chaostheory 3y ago

> So I don't see how a remotely immersive experience can happen even at the $1k price point. I strongly feel that you need to actually try modern VR for more than a few minutes. Is it perfect? Far from it. There are many problems, specifically that VR’s main form factors are too intimidating for most adults to even try. Is it immersive? Yes, a lot of apps and games are I’m just glad Tim forced Apple to finally join the market. Otherwise, there would be VR winter for about a decade due to the mass public perception of VR and the fact that the most engaged VR users can’t even drive yet.

simondotau 3y ago

It's also likely to mirror Apple's approach with all-new product families, where a first generation product is released as soon as they have the core technology working but before it's at an "Apple" level of maturity and/or have a true grip on the product's raison d'être. Subsequent generations reveal the first generation to be the experimental beta/market test product it really was all along. This was definitely the case with the iPhone, iPad and the Watch. It's arguably also true with the first generation MacBook Air. (This definitely doesn't apply to the M1 transition as this wasn't a new product family. It was a fork of an extremely mature product, combined into another extremely mature product, resulting in a product revision which was very cool but did absolutely nothing new.)