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I've seen plenty of anarchists who do recommend tearing everything down. Antifa has clothed themselves in the name of supposedly being against fascism, but they

I've seen plenty of anarchists who do recommend tearing everything down. Antifa has clothed themselves in the name of supposedly being against fascism, but they define fascism as any current system of government. They're anarchists, though the media covers them as "activists." You're right about number 2, though.

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krapp 3y ago
The "defund the police" movement originated with BLM, not Antifa. And the Wikipedia page[0] for it mentions the plan, in general terms supports removing funds from police departments and reallocating them to non-policing forms of public safety and community support, such as social services, youth services, housing, education, healthcare and other community resources. Activists who use the phrase may do so with varying intentions; some seek modest reductions, while others argue for full divestment as a step toward the abolition of contemporary police services. Activists who support the defunding of police departments often argue that investing in community programs could provide a better crime deterrent for communities; funds would go toward addressing social issues, like poverty, homelessness, and mental disorders. [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defund_the_police https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defund_the_police
- Sohcahtoa82 3y ago
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  - TaylorAlexander 3y ago
    I think this is a red herring. These movements were unpopular because of what they asked for, not the way they phrased their request.
  - krapp 3y ago
    Only racists and trolls with an agenda refused to comprehend that Black Lives Matter didn't mean "Only Black Lives Matter." And continued to refuse to comprehend no matter how many times it was explained to them. There's nothing the left can do about intentional bad faith representation of their messaging, that's just par for the course.
wak90 3y ago
Sure bud. As a semi anarchist, here is a very widely accepted definition of fascism. https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/umberto-eco-ur-fascism https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/umberto-eco-ur-fasci... Edit: you're also very wrong about number 2, you just haven't been exposed to people proposing solutions. Here is a 20 year old very famous book: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Are_Prisons_Obsolete%3F?wprov=sfla1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Are_Prisons_Obsolete%3F?wprov=...

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krapp 3y ago

The "defund the police" movement originated with BLM, not Antifa. And the Wikipedia page[0] for it mentions the plan, in general terms supports removing funds from police departments and reallocating them to non-policing forms of public safety and community support, such as social services, youth services, housing, education, healthcare and other community resources. Activists who use the phrase may do so with varying intentions; some seek modest reductions, while others argue for full divestment as a step toward the abolition of contemporary police services. Activists who support the defunding of police departments often argue that investing in community programs could provide a better crime deterrent for communities; funds would go toward addressing social issues, like poverty, homelessness, and mental disorders. [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defund_the_police https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defund_the_police

Sohcahtoa82 3y ago
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- TaylorAlexander 3y ago
  I think this is a red herring. These movements were unpopular because of what they asked for, not the way they phrased their request.
- krapp 3y ago
  Only racists and trolls with an agenda refused to comprehend that Black Lives Matter didn't mean "Only Black Lives Matter." And continued to refuse to comprehend no matter how many times it was explained to them. There's nothing the left can do about intentional bad faith representation of their messaging, that's just par for the course.

wak90 3y ago

Sure bud. As a semi anarchist, here is a very widely accepted definition of fascism. https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/umberto-eco-ur-fascism https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/umberto-eco-ur-fasci... Edit: you're also very wrong about number 2, you just haven't been exposed to people proposing solutions. Here is a 20 year old very famous book: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Are_Prisons_Obsolete%3F?wprov=sfla1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Are_Prisons_Obsolete%3F?wprov=...