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Everytime this comes up I'm utterly shocked how such blatant violation of the fourth amendment hasn't been struck down by the supreme court. Especially for cons
by elcritch 3y ago
Everytime this comes up I'm utterly shocked how such blatant violation of the fourth amendment hasn't been struck down by the supreme court. Especially for conservatives it should be a clear case of governmental overreach. For the liberal side what about defunding the police stuff? Its clear niether political party actually cares about following the constitution, which is just a let down.
Maybe we need a "NRA" for money, property, and encryption.
- yieldcrv 3y agoits been upheld by the courts in a variety of ways: one that the 4th amendment doesn't apply because you haven't proved its yours. the text says "The right of the people to be secure in their" so it applies after you prove it is something you have the right to be secure of to begin with! and if there is something illegal you incriminate yourself in the process and it switches to a criminal charge against you and the associated criminal asset forfeiture. but our new supreme court will re-examine it more decisively, lets wait till next year and see what happens!
- elcritch 3y ago> one that the 4th amendment doesn't apply because you haven't proved its yours. the text says "The right of the people to be secure in their" so it applies after you prove it is something you have the right to be secure of to begin with! Wow, that's almost literally the logic of a playground bully: "well you can't prove it's yours therefore it's mine".
- yieldcrv 3y agoyeah that’s the point of the bill of rights, intended to restrict the government because there is low trust for what it will do, and lo and behold, the people comprising it keep trying to wiggle around and make it do anything