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meh. the video goes on a bit. but i think i get what he's saying. if you assume you're a "bad person" you'll work hard to be seen as being trustworthy that t

meh. the video goes on a bit. but i think i get what he's saying. if you assume you're a "bad person" you'll work hard to be seen as being trustworthy that that will motivate you a bit more if you happen to be a less bad person than you're assuming you are. my direct experience w/ purism is pretty minimal, but it's clear there are people who are ticked off at them; just look at this BBB report: https://www.bbb.org/us/ca/san-francisco/profile/general-merchandise/purism-spc-1116-925629 https://www.bbb.org/us/ca/san-francisco/profile/general-merc...

em-bee 3y ago
(EDIT: i have no stake in this project, and i am just commenting on what i can gather from this video) if you assume you're a "bad person" you'll work hard to be seen as being trustworthy i don't agree with this. if i assume i am a bad person, then to me that means i don't care what others think and it would exactly not motivate me to be better. i have heard this many times, people excusing their bad behavior with saying that they are a bad person and can't or don't want to improve. when louis says he is a PoS, then to me that sounds like it should be ok to be a PoS. i am sorry, but it is absolutely not ok. on the other hand people who assume that they are good, should want to apologize and make corrections if it comes to light that their actions or words had a negative effect on others. of course there is also the attitude of some people that they can't do no wrong an that any criticism of their behavior is an insult. that's also not ok. the primary fault with purism here seems to be failure to communicate. the purism project may be well intentioned, but they are lacking resources which could easily be used to explain the delays in handling refunds if they had properly communicated that. but admitting failure is embarrassing, in other cultures even more so than in ours, and that can get people to try to avoid the problem rather than facing it which can lead to the situation here, however criticism like this is not helping matters either, instead it makes it worse. it is not giving others the chance to correct their mistakes. it is essentially saying: i don't want you to solve the problem, but i want to see you burn. how is that helpful?
- OhMeadhbh 3y ago
  I think Louis is saying the exact opposite of what you think he's saying.
  - em-bee 3y ago
    how is that? he says that calling yourself a PoS is good for you because it should motivate you to be better, and i say it's bad, because while it may work for him, it doesn't work for me and anyone else that i encountered who did that. this attitude also makes me look at other people the same way which is not good either. it's also defeatist, and self-depricating, just like the christian attitude that we are all born sinners, and we'll never overcome all our sins. with that attitude why should i even try? i rather believe we are born noble and that we should strive to keep that nobility or try to get back to it if we go astray.
    - OhMeadhbh 3y ago
      You initially said "it didn't work" not that "it doesn't work for me." The two statements are different. For the record, I agree with you, self-love is not so vile a sin as self-neglect.

em-bee 3y ago

(EDIT: i have no stake in this project, and i am just commenting on what i can gather from this video) if you assume you're a "bad person" you'll work hard to be seen as being trustworthy i don't agree with this. if i assume i am a bad person, then to me that means i don't care what others think and it would exactly not motivate me to be better. i have heard this many times, people excusing their bad behavior with saying that they are a bad person and can't or don't want to improve. when louis says he is a PoS, then to me that sounds like it should be ok to be a PoS. i am sorry, but it is absolutely not ok. on the other hand people who assume that they are good, should want to apologize and make corrections if it comes to light that their actions or words had a negative effect on others. of course there is also the attitude of some people that they can't do no wrong an that any criticism of their behavior is an insult. that's also not ok. the primary fault with purism here seems to be failure to communicate. the purism project may be well intentioned, but they are lacking resources which could easily be used to explain the delays in handling refunds if they had properly communicated that. but admitting failure is embarrassing, in other cultures even more so than in ours, and that can get people to try to avoid the problem rather than facing it which can lead to the situation here, however criticism like this is not helping matters either, instead it makes it worse. it is not giving others the chance to correct their mistakes. it is essentially saying: i don't want you to solve the problem, but i want to see you burn. how is that helpful?

OhMeadhbh 3y ago
I think Louis is saying the exact opposite of what you think he's saying.
- em-bee 3y ago
  how is that? he says that calling yourself a PoS is good for you because it should motivate you to be better, and i say it's bad, because while it may work for him, it doesn't work for me and anyone else that i encountered who did that. this attitude also makes me look at other people the same way which is not good either. it's also defeatist, and self-depricating, just like the christian attitude that we are all born sinners, and we'll never overcome all our sins. with that attitude why should i even try? i rather believe we are born noble and that we should strive to keep that nobility or try to get back to it if we go astray.
  - OhMeadhbh 3y ago
    You initially said "it didn't work" not that "it doesn't work for me." The two statements are different. For the record, I agree with you, self-love is not so vile a sin as self-neglect.