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Thanks this is a nice way of saying what the other poster said :) I agree, ESG is just a bunch of numbers but if we can't agree on what the right output is the

Thanks this is a nice way of saying what the other poster said :) I agree, ESG is just a bunch of numbers but if we can't agree on what the right output is then it's political in nature. I wonder if society has a bigger issue with disagreements about the E and S rather than the G, maybe not?

lowkeyoptimist 3y ago
I think there is a strong case for that, companies concern themselves with governance constantly and I would agree that there is less to be concerned about there. It seems like governance problems have been pretty well worked out over time and there is a good process for that even before the focus on ESG. E and S are where many draw their political divides so I would tend to agree that is where many of the problems lie within ESG.
pmart123 3y ago
That's most of investing though. Investors won't all agree the operating cash flow, asset base, organic sales growth if there's been M&A, etc. let alone with a P/E, P/FCF, EV/EBITDA ratio makes a company cheap or expensive. Yet, this doesn't make it political in nature though.
lmm 3y ago
"Society" has plenty of disagreements on the G, but, fortunately for the companies in question, shareholders don't. G measures, essentially, how much the company prioritizes its shareholders.